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    Respectfully, As someone that has worked in some form of LE the last 33 years and certified through FLETC as a Instructor I'll say this The "Idea" of reholstering without ever looking works great for random shooting at a match. But let me tell you when you've just experienced a real stressfull event not quite that Fluid"

    I've fought people where quick reholstering was neccessary because you went from a deadly force to a hands on. Had a few times it sisnt work as trained Do something enough times and you'll screw it up.

    A civilian scenario even though a civilian doesn't take one into custody so unlike a LEO there isnt a hurry to reholster in most scenarios.

    The current crop of automatic retention holsters (as in you simply push firearm in and automatically clicks and secures is a God send (primarily for duty type stuff).

    But to claim Jedi Master status all times everytime isn't being true to ones self or others .
     

    Trapper Jim

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    Reholstering is practiced just as drawing, firing, and manipulations. I manage well without looking.

    Yep to this and please note the topic included not looking to reholster as a practiced option, not as a given every time. To be used when you need it and believe me if you need to you better know how.
     

    ECS686

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    What about re-holstering with the weak hand? How much do you work on that?

    Probably the same ranking that practice weak hand only. More say they do then really do! I've seen some LEO's that when they have a weak hand stage at every qual act like it's a surprise. Average gun owners are no different than average LEO's trust me.
     
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    bwframe

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    Probably the ama ranking that practice weak had onky. More say they do then really do! I've seen some LEO's that I is they have a weak hand stage and every qual act like it's a surprise. Average gun is owners are no different than average LEO's trust me.

    I'm sorry, what did you say? :dunno:
     

    Sigblitz

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    Probably the ama ranking that practice weak had onky. More say they do then really do! I've seen some LEO's that I is they have a weak hand stage and every qual act like it's a surprise. Average gun is owners are no different than average LEO's trust me.

    I'm sorry, what did you say? :dunno:

    Not enough Caps, apostrophes, quotes. This guy gets it.

    Respectfully, As someone that has worked in some form of LE the last 33 years and certified through FLETC as a Instructor I'll say this The "Idea" of reholstering without ever looking works great for random shooting at a match. But let me tell you when you've just experienced a real stressfull event not quite that Fluid"

    I've fought people where quick reholstering was neccessary because you went from a deadly force to a hands on. Had a few times it sisnt work as trained Do something enough times and you'll screw it up.

    A civilian scenario even though a civilian doesn't take one into custody so unlike a LEO there isnt a hurry to reholster in most scenarios.

    The current crop of automatic retention holsters (as in you simply push firearm in and automatically clicks and secures is a God send (primarily for duty type stuff).

    But to claim Jedi Master status all times everytime isn't being true to ones self or others .
     

    Trapper Jim

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    What about re-holstering with the weak hand? How much do you work on that?

    Now this I haven't worked on for two reasons. One, to get around my gut would make me look like one of Jerry's kids swatting at flies and two, I figure if I have lost my strong arm then I'm keeping my piece at ready until the meat wagon shows up or I can get the heck out of there. :rockwoot:
     

    bwframe

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    If your strong hand is injured, there may be stuff you need to work on with your only good hand left. Stopping the strong hand bleeding comes to mind first. Maybe other injuries to take care of on yourself or others. You just gonna lay your gun down to take care of that?

    Another issue is your gun in hand when the cops come rolling up. Is that a good idea?

    Weak hand gun manipulation may require rethinking the positioning of your holster on the belt. Getting the gun in and out of the holster with the weak hand might be important to your well being and that of others around you.

    I would suggest looking your gun into the holster when re-holstering with the weak hand. ;)
     
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    Gabriel

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    I disagree, if you are reholstering, the threat is over, and a quick look to assure a clear holster is very much okay. I guess I haven’t gamed all of the myriad of reasons, so , will adjust my thinking to there is very little reason to have to reholster without a look. There is no reason for a no look speed reholster.

    Agreed. If it's too dangerous to look down for a split second at the holster, you probably shouldn't be holstering.
     

    Hookeye

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    Some people just have no finesse.
    Not a condemnation, some folks just lack the sensory ability.
    I have always had it, but lack brute strength.
    Oh well.

    I see no reason for half the stupid stuff I see.
    Its like the last 10 yrs has gotten a bunch of dips into the shooting/hunting scene.
     
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    phylodog

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    Holstering isn't a one solution problem. When I primarily used a thigh holster or duty belt holster I could holster easily without looking and did so regularly when it was necessary. Most of the time it wasn't and I prefer a quick glance to ensure nothing was in the way. Concealed carry is a different animal and since I mostly carry AIWB not only do I look the pistol into the holster but 99% of the time I do it out in the open in front of me with the holster in my hand.

    These "my way or the highway" threads are entertaining.
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    I disagree, if you are reholstering, the threat is over, and a quick look to assure a clear holster is very much okay. I guess I haven’t gamed all of the myriad of reasons, so , will adjust my thinking to there is very little reason to have to reholster without a look. There is no reason for a no look speed reholster.

    Interesting. I felt it was a pretty useful skill to have when a guy squared up with me with a machete. He threw it at me (missing) then charged me for a football tackle. Oddly enough I decided that the threat wasn't over. I didn't feel right shooting him and I didn't want to fight over my gun, so I holstered. I did it without looking since I sort of wanted to pay attention to what was in front of me. Then when he committed to the tackle I knocked him on his ass.

    So what should I have done? Shot him? Left my gun in play so we could wrestle over it? Throw it away? Took my eyes off the threat while he was charging me?

    That's one reason I prefer hammer fired guns, although I carry a Glock now. It's a rarity you need a no-look holster quickly, but I know first hand that rare =/= never.
     

    cedartop

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    Interesting. I felt it was a pretty useful skill to have when a guy squared up with me with a machete. He threw it at me (missing) then charged me for a football tackle. Oddly enough I decided that the threat wasn't over. I didn't feel right shooting him and I didn't want to fight over my gun, so I holstered. I did it without looking since I sort of wanted to pay attention to what was in front of me. Then when he committed to the tackle I knocked him on his ass.

    So what should I have done? Shot him? Left my gun in play so we could wrestle over it? Throw it away? Took my eyes off the threat while he was charging me?

    That's one reason I prefer hammer fired guns, although I carry a Glock now. It's a rarity you need a no-look holster quickly, but I know first hand that rare =/= never.

    I guess you could have hit him with your gun.
     

    cedartop

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    swiftly as in fluid movement not speed. For instance I see jabbers all the time. Jabbers are those that try to hit their holsters with the muzzle in and out several times until they eventually get the muzzle down the shoot. This happens more with rigid Kydex where the muzzle channel is narrow and the gun won't seat with a fluid movement. It can happen with leather as well but less frequently. Hope this helps.

    Yep, jabbers annoy me to. Maybe they should smoothly look their gun back into the holster until they can do it without looking. Unless of course you are carrying concealed and then most of the time you should still glance to make sure there is nothing in the way of reholstering. BTW, I have seen far more problems with leather holsters than kydex mostly because people bought cheap leather or continue to use it even though it is flopping all over
     
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