The New Colt Python will be revealed at SHOT Show 2020! Old vs. New

[reno]

Many years ago there were rumored threats about dealers who sold above MSR. I never heard of it being enforced once. And no I did not have my ear on the entire dealer network of the US.
During the Dirty Harry years S&W said not one word about Model 29's being sold for hundreds of dollars above the MSRP.

 

[Hookeye]

Shops that do silly pricing usually don't last.
Some folks want everything as cheap as possible, buy online and refuse to support brick n mortar.
Some of us understand what's what and play in the middle.

I don't need the best deal ever.
Only look for a good deal.

Gun community full of misfits,cheapskates and dipsticks, like any other community.

Somebody wants 3K for a new Python.
Big friggin deal.
They won't sell it unless somebody pays them the 3K.

Some folks simply have enough cash to burn, don't really care about MSRP.

Goody for them. It's their money.
If a shop selling ANYTHING considers that the best business model, so be it.
It's their shop.

Maybe they only do that on a couple of hot ticket items to offset the deals they make on regular stuff.
Gas and electric aint free.

Ethics? How much does walking on water pay these days?

 

[Hookeye]

So you have an old rifle.
Nothing great, just decent.
You price it at let's say.....$500.
It sits for months.
This being an individual sale.
You pull your INGO ad.
Decide to just keep it.

a yr later there's some TV show, and resultant hype about that exact rifle.

Somebody finds your old ad and contacts you.

"been looking all over, for some time, can't find one............you still have it? if so I'll take it for $800"

What you gonna do?

"oh, I had it listed for 500 when the market was flat, so will sell it to you for the old market price"

Yeah right.

 

[Ingomike]

Shops that do silly pricing usually don't last.
Some folks want everything as cheap as possible, buy online and refuse to support brick n mortar.
Some of us understand what's what and play in the middle.

I don't need the best deal ever.
Only look for a good deal.

Gun community full of misfits,cheapskates and dipsticks, like any other community.

Somebody wants 3K for a new Python.
Big friggin deal.
They won't sell it unless somebody pays them the 3K.

Some folks simply have enough cash to burn, don't really care about MSRP.

Goody for them. It's their money.
If a shop selling ANYTHING considers that the best business model, so be it.
It's their shop.

Maybe they only do that on a couple of hot ticket items to offset the deals they make on regular stuff.
Gas and electric aint free.

Ethics? How much does walking on water pay these days?

It just annoys me when folks call others names based on nothing more than their own perceived morality.

 

[Ingomike]

So you have an old rifle.
Nothing great, just decent.
You price it at let's say.....$500.
It sits for months.
This being an individual sale.
You pull your INGO ad.
Decide to just keep it.

a yr later there's some TV show, and resultant hype about that exact rifle.

Somebody finds your old ad and contacts you.

"been looking all over, for some time, can't find one............you still have it? if so I'll take it for $800"

What you gonna do?

"oh, I had it listed for 500 when the market was flat, so will sell it to you for the old market price"

Yeah right.

I feel fairly confident in saying the MSRP is intended for the long term, after the hype sales have worn off.

 

[Hookeye]

Have zero issue with shops selling new Pythons at 3K.
Won't be buying one at that price.
Just is what it is.

People b*tching are just mad others have more money than them (and have influenced current market).

I want a new Python. Think the MSRP of 1500 is tolerable.
So that's the most I'm gonna pay.

May end up with one in a few months, may not.
Really don't give a flip.

If it's too much for too long and I feel the need for a .357 sooner, buy something else.
I've had an old Python. Nice.
But have no romance of history.

My looking at the new Python is this:

Good looking gun to shoot critters with.

That is all.

 

[Ingomike]

Have zero issue with shops selling new Pythons at 3K.
Won't be buying one at that price.
Just is what it is.

People b*tching are just mad others have more money than them (and have influenced current market).

I want a new Python. Think the MSRP of 1500 is tolerable.
So that's the most I'm gonna pay.

May end up with one in a few months, may not.
Really don't give a flip.

If it's too much for too long and I feel the need for a .357 sooner, buy something else.
I've had an old Python. Nice.
But have no romance of history.

My looking at the new Python is this:

Good looking gun to shoot critters with.

That is all.

I hope to acquire one in the future when the prices drop and the hype buyers start selling theirs because it is just not as cool as "Rick" made it seem...

 

[BE Mike]

I fail to see the correlation between ripping off unknowing little old ladies and a willing purchaser from a retail store. I will give you this, I believe you to be a very nicely intentioned person, but your understanding of economics is weak.

Scarce resources must be allocated some way, I prefer to let the market allocate by price. You believe for some reason this is unethical.

You belive that MSRP should be followed, a form of price fixing. What will the end result be? Oh yes, buyers with no intention of owning a Python will buy them to resell at the real market value, maybe doubling their investment. Brand new ones will appear for sale everywhere, Armslist will be full of them. Please don't be so naive that you think all those MSRP are being sold to enthusiasts, many are going to resellers. So now our friends must purchase from a reseller. Buying from a reseller cuts out the LGS from a relationship, makes warranty claims more difficult, the shop loses the accessories sales, the list goes on. Do you really think this is a better way?

The he thinking that a shop selling at market value that happens to be above MSRP is doing something unethical is just not sound economically and very unfair.

Your defense of gun dealers is laughable and your assumptions of my knowledge clearly fall into the old definition of assume. They do what they do and either suffer consequences or not. I wouldn't want to be judged as a gun shop run by a Scrooge, but there are some that will do anything to make money. The same unethical behavior regarding my example of the widow, is the same as charging greatly inflated prices for hard to find items. I won't be responding anymore to your posts. I'm sure that many on here will be very relieved!

 

[Route 45]

Anti-capitalist sentiment on INGO?

Huh.

Found the Bernie voters.

 

[Ingomike]

Your defense of gun dealers is laughable and your assumptions of my knowledge clearly fall into the old definition of assume. They do what they do and either suffer consequences or not. I wouldn't want to be judged as a gun shop run by a Scrooge, but there are some that will do anything to make money. The same unethical behavior regarding my example of the widow, is the same as charging greatly inflated prices for hard to find items. I won't be responding anymore to your posts. I'm sure that many on here will be very relieved!

I am not the one name calling, and the hilarious irony is you are just as much beating a dead horse to call them names....

 

[two70]

Anti-capitalist sentiment on INGO?

Huh.

Found the Bernie voters.

That is going a little far... though it certainly isn't that difficult to find those that have more than a little entitlement mentality where firearms and accessories are concerned around these parts. Just mention CTD if you want to see Anti-capitalist sentiment on INGO.

 

[churchmouse]

OK then. This went a bit left of center.

 

[Dead Duck]

OK then. This went a bit left of center.

Ya but the sights are adjustable. And you're just the tool to fix it.

 

[Dead Duck]

That sounded much better in my head.....

 

[churchmouse]

That sounded much better in my head.....

Actually pretty good.....

 

[Dean C.]

Back on track, Colt might have issued a recall of the Pythons at a distributor level. Lots of lockup issues and this is not looking good for Colt IMHO because their future as a viable company depends on the Python being successful.

https://gunnersden.com/are-there-problems-with-the-colt-2020-python-interview-video/

 

[asevans]

Might have? Source?
AA

 

[churchmouse]

Back on track, Colt might have issued a recall of the Pythons at a distributor level. Lots of lockup issues and this is not looking good for Colt IMHO because their future as a viable company depends on the Python being successful.

https://gunnersden.com/are-there-problems-with-the-colt-2020-python-interview-video/

Typical Colt .
Just another reason I will stick with the S&W marque.

There mere thought of dropping Huge money on this is just a bit un-nerving but like Hookeye stated up thread....its your money peoples.

 

[Vigilant]

Can’t remake a handbuilt hand fitted gun when most of the hands have been let go after ____ bankruptcies? MIM parts and Pythons won’t mix. They were works of art in their day, not really functional for that long, but definitely works of art.

 

[churchmouse]

Can’t remake a handbuilt hand fitted gun when most of the hands have been let go after ____ bankruptcies? MIM parts and Pythons won’t mix. They were works of art in their day, not really functional for that long, but definitely works of art.

Agreed. But once again they are falling back on the past to bail their worthless butts out of the corner they painted themselves into.
The Snake gun series were among the most handsome wheel guns I have ever seen.