Two killed, 1 critically injured in shooting at Texas church

[Dead Duck]

 

[actaeon277]

Toronto police threaten Rebel journalist for calling Qasem Soleimani a “terrorist”

Well, this is the reason for the 1st.

Too bad they don't have it.

Also too bad, we don't follow it often enough.

 

[Alamo]

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/gov...est-freeway-church-of-christ-hero-jack-wilson

Governor Abbott presented the Governor’s Medal of Courage to Jack Wilson today.

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aus...ven-medal-of-courage-by-gov-abbott-on-monday/

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/gov...est-freeway-church-of-christ-hero-jack-wilson

Governor Abbott presented the Governor’s Medal of Courage to Jack Wilson today.

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aus...ven-medal-of-courage-by-gov-abbott-on-monday/

This photo should also go under the tread “Where did you see CC today”.

 

[Alamo]

This photo should also go under the tread “Where did you see CC today”.

The last I checked Governor Abbott's policy was that any person licensed to carry under Chapter 411, Subchapter H, of the Texas Government Code (the Texas LTC law) may carry a handgun openly or concealed on the premises of the Office of the Governor.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

The last I checked Governor Abbott's policy was that any person licensed to carry under Chapter 411, Subchapter H, of the Texas Government Code (the Texas LTC law) may carry a handgun openly or concealed on the premises of the Office of the Governor.

Good. I like him.

 

[Alamo]

I had no idea this was still in the works, but here it is:

Security officer who killed White Settlement church shooter won’t face charges

Tarrant County Grand Jury no-billed Jack Wilson. Duh. Wonder if he gets his gun back now?

 

[actaeon277]

Shame it took this long

 

[KellyinAvon]

I had no idea this was still in the works, but here it is:

Security officer who killed White Settlement church shooter won’t face charges

Tarrant County Grand Jury no-billed Jack Wilson. Duh. Wonder if he gets his gun back now?

About damn time.

 

[Expat]

I wonder how much "justice" cost him?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Shame it took this long

County that size and Covid, anticipate delays.

 

[Doug]

I heard from another source that in Texas every homicide has to go before a Grand Jury. It probably took some time to get that done.

 

[HoughMade]

I wonder how much "justice" cost him?

Something like this? Probably nothing out of pocket.

 

[Alamo]

I heard from another source that in Texas every homicide has to go before a Grand Jury. It probably took some time to get that done.

I have read this several times in various forums, but I cannot find anything in Texas Statute, Code of Criminal Procedure, etc, that says every homicide must go to a GJ. It might be there but I haven't found it yet. What it does say is that for a felony charge an indictment must be issued by a GJ. A prosecutor can issue an information for a misdemeanor charge on his own authority, but felony indictment requires a vote by a GJ. This would cover criminal homicides of course, but it does not appear to me that if the DA thinks a homicide is not criminal he still must take it to a GJ.

I also found that Tarrant County runs two grand juries simultaneously, and they meet three days per week every week for three months, then two new GJs are empaneled. Tarrant County covers Fort Worth (not Dallas), so they probably do have a hefty load.

 

[JettaKnight]

County that size and Covid, anticipate delays.

I suppose the prosecutor has no real compelling interest to hurry to officially say he's not going to do something, right?

 

[actaeon277]

I suppose the prosecutor has no real compelling interest to hurry to officially say he's not going to do something, right?

I do that at work almost everyday.

 

[HoughMade]

I suppose the prosecutor has no real compelling interest to hurry to officially say he's not going to do something, right?

* *Disclaimer* *

I don't practice law in Texas, so there could be details and procedures I don't know about.

Generally speaking, while the prosecutor convenes the grand jury and presents evidence, the grand jury kind of "runs" itself. It decides whether it will ask for more witnesses or subpoena more evidence.

A grand jury involves getting 23 (or more) people together in one room to, not only hear evidence, deliberate and vote, but to make all the decisions about gathering more evidence or whether they need to. Under the best of circumstances, grand jury proceedings take weeks. Throw in a pandemic where the gvt. is saying people can't gather, and believe you me, gvt. entities jumped right on "stay home stay safe"....and as Kirk said, delays happen.

It's a shame that this took so long, especially seeing how obvious it is, but court rules and statutes governing grand juries generally do not include provisions for remote meetings and such, and thus, take way too much time these days.

 

[worddoer]

I wonder how much "justice" cost him?

And this is why I have USCCA.

If you can afford it, I believe it is an immensely good idea to participate in such a program. After the use of lethal or non-lethal force in self defense, the criminal or civil court costs incurred could bring some to financial ruin. Caveat to those who are independently wealthy and can pay all costs out of pocket.

There are several carry "insurance" companies out there to choose from. You can choose who you are comfortable with.

 

[Alamo]

...

A grand jury involves getting 23 (or more) people together in one room to, ...

It's a shame that this took so long, especially seeing how obvious it is, but court rules and statutes governing grand juries generally do not include provisions for remote meetings and such, and thus, take way too much time these days.

I don't practice law in Texas either, but the statute says Texas Grand Juries have 12 jurors and 4 alternates.

Videoteleconferencing is allowed, when approved by the GJ foreman and the state attorney,only (as far as I can tell) for taking testimony of a peace officer. And then only if the "that provides an encrypted, simultaneous, compressed full motion video and interactive communication of image and sound between the peace officer, the attorney representing the state, and the grand jury." The peace officer has to affirm that only the GJ can hear his testimony and that it is not being recorded at his end (it can be recorded at the GJ end by the stenographer same as any other witness testimony).

When the GJ is in session the only ones that can be in the room are the jurors, the states attorney, the witness if any, and some approved support people like bailiff, stenographer, etc. It would be hard to guarantee this with Zoom.

Tarrant County website says the two GJs go through about 14,000 cases per year.

I also found it interesting that once they start, the GJ cannot adjourn more than three days without consent of the court.