Several new laws set to go into effect in Indiana this weekend

[actaeon277]

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peace.

 

[red_zr24x4]

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I'm all for it if Bob would just let it go.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[D.R.SCOTT]

Seems im in the minority here, but I was a medico legal death investigator in Lake County IN for the Coroner and have to say, I support the 25 ft rule. 25ft isn't a whole lot, but crowds filming and releasing information has caused a good number of my cases to be let go because a suspect would say "I saw it on Facebook live, that's how I knew those details".

Also family members would be furious that their loved ones were exploited for "likes" on social media. Plus sometimes casings or other evidence ends up farther than you think it can go.

For fires it also makes sense, stay tf away from unstable structures with compromised gas and electrical lines.

The law does specifically state investigations at a scene and fires only. This would mean CSI, Detectives, Crash reproduction units, Coroner, ect. Not any other interactions with police or LE. Being careful with information and details is very important for a successful investigation. Especially so when they go to court and a victims family is hoping for justice.

 

[Cameramonkey]

So bringing this back to life.

Anyone seen any restaurants actually following the new law? Every place Ive been still has the "nobody under 21" signs up.

Just wonder how many are going to follow the rule and how many are going to maintain status quo because they prefer it? I also wonder how many owners even are aware the law was passed. You'd think they are a member of industry groups that pass around legislative alerts so they should know about it.

 

[bdj357]

So bringing this back to life.

Anyone seen any restaurants actually following the new law? Every place Ive been still has the "nobody under 21" signs up.

Just wonder how many are going to follow the rule and how many are going to maintain status quo because they prefer it? I also wonder how many owners even are aware the law was passed. You'd think they are a member of industry groups that pass around legislative alerts so they should know about it.

I could be wrong, but I believe the law allows it, not that restaurants have to.
Many places have mentioned that they don’t want the hassle and many patrons sit in the bar to get away from unruly children that I usually find in restaurants… lol

 

[Expat]

I asked the place I eat at every other week and was told they were not changing.

 

[ZurokSlayer7X9]

I could be wrong, but I believe the law allows it, not that restaurants have to.
Many places have mentioned that they don’t want the hassle and many patrons sit in the bar to get away from unruly children that I usually find in restaurants… lol

Yeah, as far as I understand this allows minors to be present in alcohol serving zones, but it is ultimately up to the individual businesses and events to set up the rules. A lot of the places around here will not change, either because the quote "bar" area is already cordoned off from the rest of the building, or else the atmosphere would not be appropriate for children (such as a few lounges and dive bars around here). Heck, my favorite tavern still allows smoking inside.

 

[Ingomike]

This may be more for places near the border where the patrons are used to this on the other side…

 

[Cameramonkey]

Yeah, I know it’s optional. Was just curious what the effect was.

I too suspect status quo and do t mind that nothing changes.

And once again, when we went to wings, etc., they seated my family in the bar area, but not really. While we were within full view of the bar, on the same side of the half wall, our table was separated from the bar area by a metal pole. Lol.

 

[ZurokSlayer7X9]

Yeah, I know it’s optional. Was just curious what the effect was.

I too suspect status quo and do t mind that nothing changes.

And once again, when we went to wings, etc., they seated my family in the bar area, but not really. While we were within full view of the bar, on the same side of the half wall, our table was separated from the bar area by a metal pole. Lol.

I'm not sure the relevance of this now, but this has to do with Excise Police requiring a cordoned off area for and "alcohol serving area". It could be just a rope, but there has to be some sort of barrier.

I only know this because we drew up plans for a few restaurants and event centers, and Excise will look over and approve things like a fire marshal or a building inspector once alcohol is involved. Indiana Building Code I believe also has some restrictions. Fortunately I just did the drawings and didn't have to delegate with Excise, though they made us revise drawings a lot.

 

[shootersix]

So I’m opposed to letting children in the bar, I don’t want to deal with little suzi thrown a tantrum cause mom won’t let her dip her crayons into her barbecue sauce!

Also I had a “screw you petty revenge incident” happen a few years ago, and I’d like to be able for that to happen again!

My wife and I were getting ready to pull into a spot at Applebees (in the local mall) when some jackass pull into the spot. So my wife and I found another, we parked got out and walked in, here come mr Jackass with mrs jackass and what I can assume will be future jackass’s (2 to be exact)

The waitress asked “bar or table”…I take a quick look around and see plenty of bar seating and only 1 table open…so I took the table!…and watched the waitress tell “the Jackass family” it’ll be about 20 minutes!

Karma party of 4…your table is ready!

 

[Creedmoor]

guys.


peace.

Good God, how did I miss this Goat Rope?

 

[Cameramonkey]

I'm not sure the relevance of this now, but this has to do with Excise Police requiring a cordoned off area for and "alcohol serving area". It could be just a rope, but there has to be some sort of barrier.

I only know this because we drew up plans for a few restaurants and event centers, and Excise will look over and approve things like a fire marshal or a building inspector once alcohol is involved. Indiana Building Code I believe also has some restrictions. Fortunately I just did the drawings and didn't have to delegate with Excise, though they made us revise drawings a lot.

Many of Indiana's blue laws are a joke. If it was really a problem, they should be in a totally different room. Period. Full stop.

You cant tell me that my kids are safe at a table WITHIN FULL VIEW of the bar area with only a railing between, but they would be harmed if we moved 3' closer at the high top on the other side of the railing like this.

 

[ZurokSlayer7X9]

Many of Indiana's blue laws are a joke. If it was really a problem, they should be in a totally different room. Period. Full stop.

You cant tell me that my kids are safe at a table WITHIN FULL VIEW of the bar area with only a railing between, but they would be harmed if we moved 3' closer at the high top on the other side of the railing like this.
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It's just government control freaks and bureaucracy. Local jurisdictions can have their own ordinances even. For example Mishawaka has their own restrictions that are different than ones in Elkhart County. Hell, they made us put a pad lock on the fridge we were storing beer at my last job, even though it was behind a steel HM door that had to be perpetually locked.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Many of Indiana's blue laws are a joke.

My first job out of college took me to a little town in Oklahoma, and one Sunday evening, I was at a pizza place with friends and I ordered a beer. The waitress said "We can't serve beer on Sunday". Out of curiosity, I asked if the liquor stores were also closed on Sundays and she said "No, they're open". I said "I'm from Indiana, and in Indiana (at that time), on Sundays the liquor stores are closed, but you can get served at bars and restaurants". She just looked at me and said "Well, that don't make no sense".

 

[DoggyDaddy]

HEA 1186, signed by the governor on April 20, establishes a 25-foot “buffer zone” for police investigations. Under the measure, anyone who “knowingly or intentionally” approaches within 25 feet of a police officer after being ordered to stop is subject to a Class C misdemeanor.

The law classifies an “emergency incident area” as being “defined by police or firefighters with flags, barricades, barrier tape or other markers.” It spans either 25 feet in “all directions from the perimeter of the emergency incident” or 25 feet in all directions “from the perimeter of the emergency incident that is articulated by a law enforcement officer.”

The ACLU has fought this in other states...

Woman arrested under new Indiana law for filming police within 25 feet

A woman was taken into custody under a newly passed law after she filmed a Lawrence police officer within 25 feet.

www.wthr.com

 

[jwamplerusa]

My first job out of college took me to a little town in Oklahoma, and one Sunday evening, I was at a pizza place with friends and I ordered a beer. The waitress said "We can't serve beer on Sunday". Out of curiosity, I asked if the liquor stores were also closed on Sundays and she said "No, they're open". I said "I'm from Indiana, and in Indiana (at that time), on Sundays the liquor stores are closed, but you can get served at bars and restaurants". She just looked at me and said "Well, that don't make no sense".

Oh, oh.

I have a better one than that. My first job out of college was in Lawton Oklahoma.
The county that Lawton Oklahoma is in at the time was a semi-dry county. Clubs could not sell alcohol to patrons. However if you brought your own bottle they could make you a drink from your bottle and charge you a fee.

I quickly learned that the standard practice was to arrive, pay your club Entry fee and write down Mr. Smith or Mr. Jones as your name. IDs were not checked.

If you actually brought your bottle it would have a label with your Last name put on it and your drinks were poured from it. If however you didn't actually bring your own bottle and your name was Mr. Smith or Mr. Jones then your alcohol was dispensed from one of the many bottles situated around the bar with Mr. Smith or Mr. Jones on the label.

Now that, made no sense.

 

[manifest destiny]

A young lady, perhaps 9ish, sitting in a barstool at the bar coloring and playing/crafting with beads. It was this past Sunday at Cedar Creek Winery in Martinsville around 130 or so.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

A young lady, perhaps 9ish, sitting in a barstool at the bar coloring and playing/crafting with beads. It was this past Sunday at Cedar Creek Winery in Martinsville around 130 or so.

9 is too young. I don't think I tried alcohol until I was like, 13. I didn't make my own fake ID (back when we had paper licenses) until I was closer to 17.