Several new laws set to go into effect in Indiana this weekend

[KellyinAvon]

Prosecutor declines to charge woman under Indiana’s new 25-ft. police encroachment law

INDIANAPOLIS — The Marion County Prosecutor’s Office has declined to file criminal charges against an Indy woman arrested in Lawrence last week under Indiana’s new 25-foot police encroa…

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I, KellyinAvon rise in support of this law. Anything opposed by Lonnie Randolph shall be supported by me. Maybe he should quit buying his phones at Burnerphone Emporium and upgrade to something a little more capable, like an i6.

Videotape? Why to break out the Polaroid SX-70.

State Sen. Lonnie M. Randolph said 25 feet is too far for phone cameras to record incidents effectively—potentially impacting Hoosiers’ first amendment rights.

”It’s just a pretense to prevent people from exercising their rights that they have to videotape the conduct of a police officer,” State Sen. Randolph said.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Here's the actual law. There must be a warning by law enforcement.

Ind. Code § 35-44.1-2-14
A person who knowingly or intentionally approaches within twenty-five (25) feet of a law enforcement officer lawfully engaged in the execution of the law enforcement officer's duties after the law enforcement officer has ordered the person to stop approaching commits unlawful encroachment on an investigation, a Class C misdemeanor.

"Knowingly and intentionally" appear quite often in Indiana Code. Wandering into a crime scene makes one situationally unaware. Doing it after being told not to is another issue.

I can see why a specific distance was added. Too many times "take appropriate action" means something different to everyone. An "appropriate distance" just as well be in decimal-kilometers. Nobody in this country knows what it means and pulling up the conversion app would interfere with the video. Then it ended up in selfie-mode and I missed the whole thing.

Most cops don't care if you stand there and film. It is when you get physically close and start to interfere, or cross crime scene tape that you are going to have an issue. If you get within arms length of me and refuse to back off, you are going to get knocked on your ass.

I think 25 feet is even out of your reach

One way to look at this, do you go to people's work and video them? I mean if I was making a new trend chart or cleaning up data for a cost-benefit analysis I wouldn't want someone sticking a phone in my face. Stay a reasonable distance and use the zoom.

Then again, I'm an adult who has a clue.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

"Knowingly and intentionally" appear quite often in Indiana Code. Wandering into a crime scene makes one situationally unaware. Doing it after being told not to is another issue.

I can see why a specific distance was added. Too many times "take appropriate action" means something different to everyone. An "appropriate distance" just as well be in decimal-kilometers. Nobody in this country knows what it means and pulling up the conversion app would interfere with the video. Then it ended up in selfie-mode and I missed the whole thing.


I think 25 feet is even out of your reach

One way to look at this, do you go to people's work and video them? I mean if I was making a new trend chart or cleaning up data for a cost-benefit analysis I wouldn't want someone sticking a phone in my face. Stay a reasonable distance and use the zoom.

Then again, I'm an adult who has a clue.

This law wasn't written for people that know how to act in public and don't insert themselves into situations that are none of their concern. We've had officers assaulted, evidence taken, and arrestees assaulted by "bystanders" that felt the need to get involved. As long as you don't try to test the law by doing whatever, you will have no problem. And here is a video of a bystander that felt the need to involve himself in an arrest in San Francisco. NSFW.

 

[Creedmoor]

Most cops don't care if you stand there and film. It is when you get physically close and start to interfere, or cross crime scene tape that you are going to have an issue. If you get within arms length of me and refuse to back off, you are going to get knocked on your ass.

Do you pull hair and wispier dirtys?

 

[KellyinAvon]

This law wasn't written for people that know how to act in public and don't insert themselves into situations that are none of their concern. We've had officers assaulted, evidence taken, and arrestees assaulted by "bystanders" that felt the need to get involved. As long as you don't try to test the law by doing whatever, you will have no problem. And here is a video of a bystander that felt the need to involve himself in an arrest in San Francisco. NSFW.

HOLY CRAP!!

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Do you pull hair and wispier dirtys?

Do what?

 

[Rookie]

Most cops don't care if you stand there and film. It is when you get physically close and start to interfere, or cross crime scene tape that you are going to have an issue. If you get within arms length of me and refuse to back off, you are going to get knocked on your ass.

But what if I just want a hug?

 

[Route 45]

Do you pull hair and wispier dirtys?

And people wonder why this 25 foot law is needed.

 

[Creedmoor]

Do what?

You posted, you are going to get knocked on your ass.

Do you pull hair and wispier dirtys?

 

[Creedmoor]

But what if I just want a hug?

Get a Therapy Buddy,

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

You posted, you are going to get knocked on your ass.

Do you pull hair and wispier dirtys?

I don't know what "wispier dirtys" means, so probably not.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

But what if I just want a hug?

For you, always.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

This law wasn't written for people that know how to act in public and don't insert themselves into situations that are none of their concern. We've had officers assaulted, evidence taken, and arrestees assaulted by "bystanders" that felt the need to get involved. As long as you don't try to test the law by doing whatever, you will have no problem. And here is a video of a bystander that felt the need to involve himself in an arrest in San Francisco. NSFW.

A couple of questions. Is skin tight jeans official dress code for female officers in that dept.? And is the officer whose body cam that video came from a midget or were they wearing it as a belt buckle?

For you, always.

But don't you give throat hugs?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

A couple of questions. Is skin tight jeans official dress code for female officers in that dept.? And is the officer whose body cam that video came from a midget or were they wearing it as a belt buckle?


But don't you give throat hugs?

Not sure on the dress code, but skin tight jeans are pretty common for detectives in "undercover" capacities. And the perspective of the camera depends on where it is mounted. Or the guy was a midget.

Rookie is special, he gets bro hugs.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Not sure on the dress code, but skin tight jeans are pretty common for detectives in "undercover" capacities. And the perspective of the camera depends on where it is mounted. Or the guy was a midget.

Rookie is special, he gets bro hugs.

Isn't almost everyone a midget from your perspective though?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Isn't almost everyone a midget from your perspective though?

Pretty much! So my body cam looks "normal size" people right in the face.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Pretty much! So my body cam looks "normal size" people right in the face.

So it might catch the top of my head. Maybe.

 

[actaeon277]

I-Team: Backlash growing against school zone speed cameras in Georgia​

 

[BE Mike]

Everyone wants to drive fast. That is the bottom line.

 

[Ingomike]

Everyone wants to drive fast. That is the bottom line.

It is a money grab is the bottom line. It is unconstitutional which is why they don’t put points on drivers licenses. IF, they allow this the companies should not profit per ticket, they should be paid a flat fee for services and equipment.

I believe NO fines should go to government or private companies as there should be no profit in punishment it should all go to a blind charity distribution system. If the safety of children really is the motivation it should be worth the cost, not a profit center…