NASCAR 2023

[greg]

5 races on Amazon Prime then 5 Races on TNT

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Typical fair weather X-fan hasnt seen the first race streamed and claims to know the outcome and how popular it will be…..SMH

 

[greg]

Not sure what the surprise is? We already knew most of it. The good is an inflation adjusted increase. The bad is they only locked it up for 6 years instead of the 10 they had been getting. The other bad is it will be harder for fans to watch races I suspect Amazon’s interest is they know NASCAR fans may be a ripe group to increase members. Hope they share some of that with the teams to shore them up.

It’s a seven year deal not six and said to a be 40% increase in revenue for all involved.Call it an inflation increase if you wish or if it fits your agenda.

 

[Ingomike]

It’s a seven year deal not six and said to a be 40% increase in revenue for all involved.Call it an inflation increase if you wish or if it fits your agenda.

Yep, not sure where I got six from, probably my dyslexia. If you were being paid $20 to do a job for ten years and now you negotiate $25 per job you got a number increase but in real constant dollars you lost to inflation. It takes over $26 to get back to even.

I said it was good they got an increase over inflation. Back in the early 2000’s NASCAR was challenging the NFL. The NFL now gets over $10 billion a year…

 

[greg]

Them days are gone but I am sure some will still dwell on it….

Good to see we’re back to comparing to stick and ball sports at least it not a woman league

 

[Ingomike]

Them days are gone but I am sure some will still dwell on it….

And some will not want to acknowledge it happened. As big of a NASCAR cheerleader as you are that you do not acknowledge the pinnacle of the sport because it is not as popular as it used to be is just funny. Funny in the same way Baghdad Bob once was…

 

[greg]

Yeah … everyone a FAN when something poplar True Fans are always there… thick or thin!

 

[Ingomike]

Yeah … everyone a FAN when something poplar True Fans are always there… thick or thin!

Please define a “true fan” and describe how they differ from fans and how one would count “true fans” then and now. I doubt those numbers will impress sponsors…

 

[JCSR]

NFL doing OK these days. Why not NASCAR?

 

[foszoe]

Who cares about viewers?

I was right. Contract better than the last one. NASCAR not dead yet.

 

[JCSR]

Who cares about viewers?

I was right. Contract better than the last one. NASCAR not dead yet.

greg cares. And 10 races not on network is a lose.

 

[foszoe]

greg cares. And 10 races not on network is a lose.

No morenthan NFL and Amazon Prime
Which is the comparison I keep seeing.

Business is about top and bottom lines.

 

[JCSR]

No morenthan NFL and Amazon Prime
Which is the comparison I keep seeing.

Business is about top and bottom lines.

NFL plays ~272 games and 18 are on Prime. NASCAR around 36. It's called percentage in case you were wondering. Do the math.

 

[Ingomike]

Who cares about viewers?

I was right. Contract better than the last one. NASCAR not dead yet.

Right about what? Right now viewers may not be as important as having content, but the day is coming so NASCAR better get ready, this may well be the biggest contract they ever get because once cable dies, and it will, there will be fewer suitors for all content.

I explained in detail in this thread the unique media situation we are in now. Said they would get more money because of that unique situation. (If you forgot, old cable media desperately needs live content to remain relevant in a market heading to streaming, but not there yet, while streaming desperately needs to show they can get the live TV right to kill cable.)

 

[Ingomike]

No morenthan NFL and Amazon Prime
Which is the comparison I keep seeing.

Business is about top and bottom lines.

They did not take away Sunday or Monday games for Amazon, they had the Thursday games to bolster their NFL network and they shifted those to streaming. The NFL added games their brand is so popular since the two were close and competitive. NASCAR had ten races regular broadcast TV would not take, so they split them between cable and streaming…

 

[foszoe]

NFL plays ~272 games and 18 are on Prime. NASCAR around 36. It's called percentage in case you were wondering. Do the math.

Umm ok. It's Thursday night. The game is on Prime. You don't have Prime, which game are you watching?

 

[foszoe]

Right about what? Right now viewers may not be as important as having content, but the day is coming so NASCAR better get ready, this may well be the biggest contract they ever get because once cable dies, and it will, there will be fewer suitors for all content.

I explained in detail in this thread the unique media situation we are in now. Said they would get more money because of that unique situation. (If you forgot, old cable media desperately needs live content to remain relevant in a market heading to streaming, but not there yet, while streaming desperately needs to show they can get the live TV right to kill cable.)

Well. We can wait another 7 years and see if you are right.

 

[greg]

Well. We can wait another 7 years and see if you are right.

In seven years the same few that was chanting “the money isn’t there or the deal would be done” will be eating crow again!

65% of NASCAR fans already have amazon prime now….

There has never been a time in the history of the sport where you could watch the entire NASCAR Cup Series schedule on free broadcast television.

 

[greg]

They did not take away Sunday or Monday games for Amazon, they had the Thursday games to bolster their NFL network and they shifted those to streaming. The NFL added games their brand is so popular since the two were close and competitive. NASCAR had ten races regular broadcast TV would not take, so they split them between cable and streaming…

“NASCAR had ten races regular broadcast TV would not take”…… that’s a BS statement the streaming people wanted a part of the action so they was offered six races which was not enough for them to commit the $$$$$ money so they got 10!

BTW…. The 2025 schedule hasn’t been released so no one even knows what races these are…..SMH!

 

[greg]

NFL doing OK these days. Why not NASCAR?

Ask the folks that just spent $7.7B in media rights deals…..

 

[Mark-DuCo]

Comparing stick and ball sports that are shoved down people's throats starting in elementary school, and have the benefit of being able to have a consistent "home team" to racing is like comparing apples to pine cones.

Of course the NFL fan base is going to be a lot bigger when you have 36 teams that are always in the same place, the team from year to year is still your team even if there are a few personnel changes or retirements.