Is The Left/Right Divide Bridgeable?

[1nderbeard]

I've got some optimism that this recent sprint to the left will leave some moderate democrats wondering if they were wrong the whole time about the government's inevitable move to tyranny. AOC was even confronted by an angry group of protestors this week. If she isn't left enough, who is?

 

[BugI02]

Well, other than the typo (original was progresses, now changed to the intended progressives, I think it’s pretty straightforward.

Maybe he couldn't understand it because it was too short?

 

[BugI02]

Eh, I’m sure you think it is, but that’s not the dichotomy, I’d agreed with. I think the Christian/non-Christian dichotomy is quite bridgeable, other than religions which see Christians as infidels to conquer. But, if you believe this is a battle between Christians and the Antichrist, that’s a religious opinion, which you’re entitled to. Prolly not gonna get is where we need to be, IMHO.



Now this one is accurate. The logical conclusion of progressivism is necessarily communist. There’s no bridge. They can’t peacefully coexist because Marxists can’t abide capitalism or especially capitalists.

I'm kind of more down with Kyle Reese

" ... it can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with, it doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop… EVER, until you are dead!”

 

[Twangbanger]

Upon further reflection, I guess I have an issue with the premise of the thread.

What does "bridging the gap" mean?

That we come up with some "Haley-like moderate" who unites both sides? I mean, we just spent an entire thread trashing her and the Roomba she rode in on.

Nobody here (or very few) want to "bridge" anything. We mostly want the moderate-uniter-compromisers to go **** themselves. So what is this even about?

Should this thread have been titled, "Raise your hand if you think No Labels" should go eff themselves?"

 

[Twangbanger]

I've got some optimism that this recent sprint to the left will leave some moderate democrats wondering if they were wrong the whole time about the government's inevitable move to tyranny. AOC was even confronted by an angry group of protestors this week. If she isn't left enough, who is?

If you're looking for evidence the L/R gap is bridge-able, I would prefer to see AOC's NYC Jewish voters abandoning her. Instead of academic weirdos from Columbia pushing her further left. There's no evidence this is hurting her politically.

 

[1nderbeard]

If you're looking for evidence the L/R gap is bridge-able, I would prefer to see AOC's NYC Jewish voters abandoning her. Instead of academic weirdos from Columbia pushing her further left. There's no evidence this is hurting her politically.

My point as as more and more people adopt the crazy alt left viewpoints, I think you'll see more people come to the right. Elon Mush, Joe Rogan, Bill Maher (?!) are all people speaking out about the insanity of transgenderism and border issues.

 

[Ingomike]

My point as as more and more people adopt the crazy alt left viewpoints, I think you'll see more people come to the right. Elon Mush, Joe Rogan, Bill Maher (?!) are all people speaking out about the insanity of transgenderism and border issues.

Those are not coming to the right, they are liberals in the classic sense. They are markers for how far left the left has moved…

 

[1nderbeard]

Those are not coming to the right, they are liberals in the classic sense. They are markers for how far left the left has moved…

yes, but if liberals can see the insanity of the left maybe there is a common cause that can unite the country.

 

[Shadow01]

yes, but if liberals can see the insanity of the left maybe there is a common cause that can unite the country.

Eliminating democrats?

 

[phylodog]

Eliminating democrats?

No worries there. This country will never run out of people who have become experts at complaining about everything while simultaneously being completely unable to develop viable solutions to anything.

 

[jamil]

I'm kind of more down with Kyle Reese

" ... it can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with, it doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop… EVER, until you are dead!”

I agree with that description.

 

[jamil]

No. I don’t think it is. At least not as things are now. I mean if when progressives faint at the prospect of not allowing people to get away with child molesting, we’re not even on the same planet.

Here’s another divide we can’t bridge.



Dude raped women. They won’t arrest/prosecute? That’s ****ing crazy. That’s not from this planet, that’s from ClownWorld™.

TL;DR THAT’S ****ING CRAZY!

 

[R3p1lc3]

I pray, I throw my worries to god and try to spread his message when possible, and keep my eyes wide open.
Mostly that's all we can do. Be informed, diligent, and have grace even when dealing with our enemies.

 

[Mij]

Here’s another divide we can’t bridge.



Dude raped women. They won’t arrest/prosecute? That’s ****ing crazy. That’s not from this planet, that’s from ClownWorld™.

TL;DR THAT’S ****ING CRAZY!

Ya, but he was arrested. Made the mistake of going to Fla. a non sanctuary state. They put his *** in jail where he belongs if the story is true. My 2 cents.

 

[BigRed]

Here’s another divide we can’t bridge.



Dude raped women. They won’t arrest/prosecute? That’s ****ing crazy. That’s not from this planet, that’s from ClownWorld™.

TL;DR THAT’S ****ING CRAZY!

I could bridge that with a .30-06

 

[BigRed]

https://www.amazon.com/Rethinking-American-Union-Twenty-First-Century/dp/1589809572

 

[Twangbanger]

My point as as more and more people adopt the crazy alt left viewpoints, I think you'll see more people come to the right. Elon Mush, Joe Rogan, Bill Maher (?!) are all people speaking out about the insanity of transgenderism and border issues.

Maher will be down with Biden, Rogan will just vote libertarian with the rest of the "tatts and weed" doods. They aren't "seeing through" liberalism. They're just rejecting the portions of it that hurt them personally.

If the Democrat Party agreed comedians should be allowed free speech, and bio-dudes shouldn't be allowed to beat up chicks in MMA competitions, both of them would be happy as clams pulling the "D" lever. They are down with everything else in that world view. Trump is the only GOP prez in our lifetimes who broke with the corporate wing of the GOP to broaden the Republican tent. And they both consider him the human embodiment of hate.

 

[Tombs]

Upon further reflection, I guess I have an issue with the premise of the thread.

What does "bridging the gap" mean?

That we come up with some "Haley-like moderate" who unites both sides? I mean, we just spent an entire thread trashing her and the Roomba she rode in on.

Nobody here (or very few) want to "bridge" anything. We mostly want the moderate-uniter-compromisers to go **** themselves. So what is this even about?

Should this thread have been titled, "Raise your hand if you think No Labels" should go eff themselves?"

If you think haley was bridging any kind of gap you've never listened to any of her policy positions.

She was straight out of 1984, more authoritarian than biden.


If we had a legitimate left wing in this country, like we used to, both the left and the right would have been united in seeing she never got anywhere near power.

 

[Tombs]

We hit a hard disagreement there. The people elected and/or appointed to positions of leadership in this country swear an oath to protect and defend it. The people I listed directly, intentionally, consistently and repeatedly violate that oath on an almost daily basis during their times of "service".

And do you think that after 50 years of the public voting in democrats in detroit, as it continues to go down hill every single election, that the people should bare no responsibility for that?

With elections, the buck stops with the voters, and if the voters are just going to continue to vote themselves into ruin, it's hard to blame people for courting their votes.

If the voters refuse to hold any of these people accountable for violating their oath, I fail to see how the fault doesn't rest with the voters.

 

[mmpsteve]

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" ... it can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with, it doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop… EVER, until you are dead!”

Reminds me of some words written several decades earlier:

"and if the ravages wrought by their acts have not made them question their doctrines, if they profess to be moved by love, yet are not deterred by piles of human corpses, it is because the truth about their souls is worse than the obscene excuse you have allowed them, the excuse that the end justifies the means and that the horrors they practice are means to nobler ends. The truth is that those horrors are their ends.”
― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged


When you speak of bridging the gap, you're talking compromise. When good compromises with evil, evil triumphs. And right now, in this ClownWorld, the left is all about evil, or at least the destruction of the country as we once knew it. So I say no, **** them, and the donkeys they rode in on.

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