102 things NOT to do if you hate taxes.

[hornadylnl]

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. While not always true, it is by and large.

We had a guy who was our weld school instructor at work. Supposedly he has all kinds of certifications in welding. But in his time on the production floor, I have not heard one person say anything good about his welds.

 

[steveh_131]

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. While not always true, it is by and large.

We had a guy who was our weld school instructor at work. Supposedly he has all kinds of certifications in welding. But in his time on the production floor, I have not heard one person say anything good about his welds.

I wonder if this has something to do with the lack of free market forces in schools. Maybe incompetent people flock to jobs that have no accountability or competition.

Nah, couldn't be it.

 

[dross]

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. While not always true, it is by and large.

We had a guy who was our weld school instructor at work. Supposedly he has all kinds of certifications in welding. But in his time on the production floor, I have not heard one person say anything good about his welds.

Teaching is its own skill. Many experts in a particular field are horrible at passing this knowledge on.

Most great coaches were average players, and some were terrible players.

The best teacher you'll ever have is a guy who just learned the same thing himself. He knows something the expert has forgotten - how to learn that skill. The expert has probably forgotten how he does half of what he does. It's passed on to unconscious competence and has become a part of him. The expert thinks you're absorbing things you're not, because it's so simple for him.

This isn't true 100% of the time, but it's true quite a lot of the time.

 

[badwolf.usmc]

The 'Certified' Teacher Myth - WSJ.com

You seem to really take issue with capitalism in general. Most of your arguments so far reflect this.

Interesting how the article is on the opinion section of the WSJ, but anyway, the article talks about how in his opinion teacher unions are trying to restricting alternative certifications. Not directly what i was referring to but still, it's there.

I wasn't taking issue with capitalism in general, i was taking issue with the comment that businesses, as a whole, are better run than schools, as a whole.

I get so bored arguing with people who ignore my points. Agree, disagree, argue, but don't pass over them as if I didn't bother to write anything.

Yawn.

Sorry you feel that way, i replied to everything you wrote. I guess you didn't hear what you wanted to hear. If you're not too tired, just copy the points you think i ignored and i'll readdress them.

 

[badwolf.usmc]

I wonder if this has something to do with the lack of free market forces in schools. Maybe incompetent people flock to jobs that have no accountability or competition.

Nah, couldn't be it.

And losers at life surf the internet all day.

 

[steveh_131]

And losers at life surf the internet all day.

he says, on the internet, during the day

 

[hornadylnl]

Teaching is its own skill. Many experts in a particular field are horrible at passing this knowledge on.

Most great coaches were average players, and some were terrible players.

The best teacher you'll ever have is a guy who just learned the same thing himself. He knows something the expert has forgotten - how to learn that skill. The expert has probably forgotten how he does half of what he does. It's passed on to unconscious competence and has become a part of him. The expert thinks you're absorbing things you're not, because it's so simple for him.

This isn't true 100% of the time, but it's true quite a lot of the time.

And that would be me. Occasionally I get people to train to work my job for the other shifts. I hate training. The newb better be damned attentive and pick my brain because I'm not going to hold them down and draw pictures for them. Teaching is not my gift at all.

 

[jgreiner]

I don't mind taxes for USEFUL things...or when the money is well spent. But i hate payuing for teachers that should have been fired decades ago except that the union protects their incompetence. I hate paying for 1 guy to dig a hole...and 5 guys to stand around and supervise him doing it.

Government wastes far too much money.

 

[bigus_D]

I voted to approve the 0.19% tax by our school district. It passed. I'm glad.

This should help the school district and thereby support my property value ( so I can pay even more tax ). Woot woot!!!

 

[MinuteMan47]

I voted to approve the 0.19% tax by our school district. It passed. I'm glad.

This should help the school district and thereby support my property value ( so I can pay even more tax ). Woot woot!!!

You are excited about paying more taxes even though the schools are never held accountable for their out of control spending?

 

[bigus_D]

You are excited about paying more taxes even though the schools are never held accountable for their out of control spending?

Please illustrate the "out of control" spending in the Sheridan community school district and your plans to resolve it. Upon review I'll advise if I'm still happy with my vote and the 72-28 victory the referendum passed by.

 

[hornadylnl]

One of the areas of government spending that really grates on me is buildings. I built a 50x80 steel building with a 40 year warranty. It has a full 5" concrete slab. I also put in 3 12'x16 and 1 10'x10 overhead doors. I've got it wired also and have about $75k in it so far.

Ever seen a state highway garage? I think every one I've seen is brick or concrete block. Ever seen some of the firehouses? Brick monstrosities. Why can't the government build pole buildings for this stuff? About the only time I see a pole building for a government building are really small towns. My school district was building a concession stand for a baseball or softball field for over $90. I sold my old 1800sf house with .8 acre for 2/3rd the price of that concession stand.

 

[Brandon]

My school district was building a concession stand for a baseball or softball field for over $90. I sold my old 1800sf house with .8 acre for 2/3rd the price of that concession stand.

I would of paid you $90 for your old house.

 

[hornadylnl]

I would of paid you $90 for your old house.

Sorry, that was $90k. And this is a rural school district that averages less than 100 kids per grade. And they seem to be extremely reasonable on spending COMPARED to other schools. But they still waste way too much money.

 

[Expat]

Schools didn't have A/C when I was there. They are out most of the summer so I think they can save a lot of money right there.

 

[LEaSH]

Schools didn't have A/C when I was there. They are out most of the summer so I think they can save a lot of money right there.

Ah yes, yes.

But they don't call them snowflakes for nothing.

 

[steveh_131]

Please illustrate the "out of control" spending in the Sheridan community school district and your plans to resolve it. Upon review I'll advise if I'm still happy with my vote and the 72-28 victory the referendum passed by.

Did you research it yourself so you could place an informed vote? What did your research produce?

 

[MinuteMan47]

Please illustrate the "out of control" spending in the Sheridan community school district and your plans to resolve it. Upon review I'll advise if I'm still happy with my vote and the 72-28 victory the referendum passed by.

Well, if you weren't already aware there is a .12% tax increase going into effect beginning 2012 for the new elementary school. NOW, there will ALSO be a .19 % for the NEW referendum. There was also quite a bit of unnecessary remodeling done to the high school. The old pool became a very large computer lab, then they turned around and made it into a library. Plus all the other additions...and as expat said they now have AC. We didn't.

The superintendent is OVERPAID, and they have hired numerous new teachers who they claim would lose jobs if the referendum didn't pass. But, if you do the math they still hired faculty.


Also, here is a link with plenty of info...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Just-Say-NO-on-Nov-8-To-SCS-Operating-Referendum/218272421570556

 

[bigus_D]

Did you research it yourself so you could place an informed vote? What did your research produce?

I see increasing class sizes and reductions in music/art/etc. These are not good changes. The tax rates here are lower than surrounding communities.

I did not review the budget, but if provided proof of waste and a plan to resolve it, I would gladly support THAT effort. In the mean time, I believe I made the correct, informed, decision.

 

[steveh_131]

I see increasing class sizes and reductions in music/art/etc. These are not good changes. The tax rates here are lower than surrounding communities.

I did not review the budget, but if provided proof of waste and a plan to resolve it, I would gladly support THAT effort. In the mean time, I believe I made the correct, informed, decision.

If you think more money is necessary in those areas, why not just donate more of your own money? Why force others to pay for things that you value?