2011 Legislative session---FINALLY!

[Bill of Rights]

**SIGH** Come on SB 506 and SB92!!! SB154 and 434 are baby baby steps.
BoR do you know what the vote roll call was for SB154?
I never heard back from my REP suspect he was a NAY on all of these.

SB 434 passed also. I'm on the iPod right now, Jedi, so no, I don't know the roll call on either one. When I get home tonight, I'll check and post it.

SB 94 and 506 are next to come to Second Reading. SB 292 needs to clear the committee first.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Got a chance to check just now

154 was 83-6 with 11 excused (committee mtgs)
The nay votes were:
Bartlett
Brown, C
Candelaria-Reardon
Crawford
Harris
Porter

434 was 84-5 with 10 excused and 1 (Speaker Bosma) not voting
The nay votes were:
Brown,C
Candelaria-Reardon
Porter
Pryor
Summers

Hope that helps!

Blessings,
Bill

 

[jedi]

Well hot dog y rep did vote YES for these.
Hum...

 

[Bill of Rights]

Well hot dog y rep did vote YES for these.
Hum...

Not necessarily. Your rep might have been excused absent as well. All you know for sure from what I posted is that your rep didn't vote NAY.

Here's the rest of it.

SB 154
Firearms on off-road vehicles or snowmobiles.
VOTING YEA: 83
Austin Dodge Lawson, L Saunders
Bacon Eberhart Lehe Smith, M
Baird Ellspermann Lehman Soliday
Bardon Espich Leonard Speedy
Battles Foley Lutz Stemler
Bauer Friend Mahan Steuerwald
Borders Frizzell McClain Sullivan
Brown, T Fry, C McMillin Thompson
Burton Frye, R McNamara Torr
Cheatham GiaQuinta Messmer Truitt
Cherry Goodin Moseley Turner
Clere Grubb Moses Tyler
Crouch Gutwein Niezgodski Ubelhor
Culver Heaton Pelath VanDenburgh
Davis Hinkle Pflum VanNatter
Davisson Karickhoff Pond Welch
Day Kersey Pryor Wesco
DeLaney Klinker Reske Wolkins
Dembowski Knollman Rhoads Yarde
Dermody Koch Richardson Mr. Speaker
Dobis Kubacki Riecken

VOTING NAY: 6
Bartlett Candelaria Reardon Harris
Brown,C Crawford Porter

EXCUSED FROM VOTING: 11
Behning Kirchhofer Noe Stevenson
Dvorak Morris Pierce Summers
Heuer Neese Smith, V



SB 434
Retail handgun dealer's licenses.

VOTING YEA: 84
Austin Dermody Knollman Richardson
Bacon Dobis Koch Riecken
Baird Dodge Kubacki Saunders
Bardon Eberhart Lawson, L Smith, M
Bartlett Ellspermann Lehe Soliday
Battles Espich Lehman Speedy
Bauer Foley Leonard Stemler
Behning Friend Lutz Steuerwald
Borders Frizzell Mahan Sullivan
Brown, T Fry, C McClain Thompson
Burton Frye, R McMillin Torr
Cheatham GiaQuinta McNamara Truitt
Cherry Goodin Messmer Turner
Clere Grubb Moseley Tyler
Crouch Gutwein Moses Ubelhor
Culver Harris Niezgodski VanDenburgh
Davis Heaton Pelath VanNatter
Davisson Hinkle Pflum Welch
Day Karickhoff Pond Wesco
DeLaney Kersey Reske Wolkins
Dembowski Klinker Rhoads Yarde

VOTING NAY: 5
Brown,C Porter Summers
Candelaria Reardon Pryor

EXCUSED FROM VOTING: 10
Crawford Kirchhofer Noe Stevenson
Dvorak Morris Pierce
Heuer Neese Smith, V

NOT VOTING: 1
Mr. Speaker (Bosma)

Hope that helps!

Blessings,
Bill

 

[jedi]

Why are some excused from voting?
STEVENSON is my rep and for both bills he is on excused!
Plus he has yet to reply to my email.

Hum...
Hum.......

 

[Bill of Rights]

Why are some excused from voting?
STEVENSON is my rep and for both bills he is on excused!
Plus he has yet to reply to my email.

Hum...
Hum.......

They were excused because they were in committee meetings.

 

[jedi]

They were excused because they were in committee meetings.

How convenient. Hum....
Thanks BoR for the info.

 

[4sarge]

From Jim,

With all that I'm still taking it from all those who want to rewrite my two gun bills, SB 506 ( transport bill) and SB 292 (pre-emption). As you know those bills got through the Senate and SB 506 made it out of committee in the House, but I've got folks that have been dogging me all week to change the language.
However, this week I managed to bring on board with me a fantastic gentleman who knows Indiana gun laws in and out all across the state. His name is Bryan Ciyou (pronounced Ki you) and he is the author of "Indiana Firearms Law Reference Manual". I contacted him to get his book. Not only did he give me a copy but he included a note that if he could ever help me to give him a call. So I did.

Wednesday he paid me a visit and has agreed to help me, and he has. He is now assisting me in interpretation of language of proposed amendments by those who oppose my bills. Bryan is a lawyer and extremely well spoken and is also willing to testify on behalf of SB 292.



SB 292 may be up for a committee hearing this week and hopefully SB 506 will heard on the House floor. Your phone calls to House members 1-800-382-9842 to support these bills would be appreciated. We may never get this close again on a pre-emption bill in this current form.

Thanks,

Jim

 

[Bill of Rights]

SB 434 passed also. I'm on the iPod right now, Jedi, so no, I don't know the roll call on either one. When I get home tonight, I'll check and post it.

SB 94 and 506 are next to come to Second Reading. SB 292 needs to clear the committee first.

I just noticed that SB 94 and SB 506 are both on the House calendar Monday for Second Reading. This and two more steps will make it law.

The current active bills before the state legislature as of today, 4/9/2011, that address gun rights are

SB 94------- Scheduled for Second Reading Monday, 4/11/11
SB 154 ----- Passed by both houses. Scheduled to go to Gov. Daniels' desk
SB 292 ----- ???
SB 411 ----- Passed by both houses. Scheduled to go to Gov. Daniels' desk
SB 434 ----- Passed by both houses. Scheduled to go to Gov. Daniels' desk
SB 506 ----- Scheduled for Second Reading Monday, 4/11/11

 

[mrortega]

Great job, 4sarge. Please keep us updated here as often as possible. I don't want to keep bothering you with personal emails.

 

[jedi]

Great job, 4sarge. Please keep us updated here as often as possible. I don't want to keep bothering you with personal emails.

Keep bothering him. Da ooooooollllldddddd man aint gots nothing else 2 do but annoy the wife, the neighbors and dogs. They will be happy 2 keep him busy with emails for a while.

 

[mrortega]

Keep bothering him. Da ooooooollllldddddd man aint gots nothing else 2 do but annoy the wife, the neighbors and dogs. They will be happy 2 keep him busy with emails for a while.

Hmmm. He seems so busy with the 2nd Amendment Patriots, being a state senator, etc that I just assumed he was pretty important! I'll try to be less respectful and ask for personal phone updates every day.

 

[ATM]

Hmmm. He seems so busy with the 2nd Amendment Patriots, being a state senator, etc that I just assumed he was pretty important! I'll try to be less respectful and ask for personal phone updates every day.

4sarge is pretty important


...but he isn't Jim, just posting stuff from Jim.

 

[Bill of Rights]

4sarge is pretty important


...but he isn't Jim, just posting stuff from Jim.

Correct. I spoke with Jim the other day when I was in Indy on another matter and he confirmed to me that he occasionally (when he has time; he barely has time to answer his emails, he said!) checks and reads INGO. He does not have a member name here, however.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[jedi]

Hmmm. He seems so busy with the 2nd Amendment Patriots, being a state senator, etc that I just assumed he was pretty important! I'll try to be less respectful and ask for personal phone updates every day.

mrotega, the member 4sarge is NOT JIM. 4sarge is just a regualr "gun nut" like the rest of us that passes emails that JIM sends him.

I know 4sarge and trust me he is not JIM.

 

[mrortega]

Hold it now!! Next you're going to tell me the Wizard of Oz isn't real!?! What can I believe in any more.

 

[jedi]

Hold it now!! Next you're going to tell me the Wizard of Oz isn't real!?! What can I believe in any more.

Why this is an easy one!

That is all you need to believe in.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Mrsmitty asked in another thread what SB 292 was really about. I had the thought the other day that we haven't really covered that on any of these, so...

SB 94 removes the prohibition requiring that IN citizens can purchase long guns only in IN or contiguous states (OH, KY, MI, and IL) and that citizens of other states besides those can purchase here.
SB 154 removes the prohibition on carrying a loaded firearm on an ATV or snowmobile.

SB 292 removes the ability of localities to enact ordinances more strict than state law on the ownership or carry of firearms. It makes a few other specifications, but no, it does not allow people to shoot anywhere and everywhere.

SB 411 adds to last year's parking lot bill to prevent businesses from hiring only non-gun owners.

SB 434 allows those who obtain a state license to sell handguns to do so every six years rather than every two.

SB 506 removes the requirement that one must have a LTCH to lawfully transport a handgun to a range. It does not allow for Constitutional Carry, as some seem to be insinuating.

SB 94 and SB 506 are both scheduled for Second Reading tomorrow. SB 292 still needs to be heard in committee. The other three just need the Governor's signature to become law.

I'm sorry this is not more detailed. I wrote it on the iPod, so am working from memory.

Hope that helps!

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Bill of Rights]

SB 94 was just ordered to engrossment by consent. SB 506 among others will not be heard until tomorrow due to the large number of amendments filed today.
The current active bills before the state legislature as of today, 4/11/2011, that address gun rights are

SB 94------- Ordered to Engrossment 4/11/11 by consent.
SB 154 ----- Passed by both houses. Scheduled to go to Gov. Daniels' desk
SB 292 ----- ???
SB 411 ----- Passed by both houses. Scheduled to go to Gov. Daniels' desk
SB 434 ----- Passed by both houses. Scheduled to go to Gov. Daniels' desk
SB 506 ----- Scheduled for Second Reading Monday, 4/11/11- delayed, possibly to be heard 4/12/11.

 

[jedi]

"ordered to engrossment" meaning the HOUSE is done with it (no more amendments, no more readings) they like it and will vote on it next?