.22LR WoW....am not believing what I am seeing..

[Bunnykid68]

Why so you can be like our leaders and have it all so none of the rest of us can have any at all?? This guy must work for DHS w his 10.9 billion rounds ordered per year!!

If you want it all I got some prime farmland in the Alaska Tundra ill sell ya at 2.8 an acre

If they didn't need it 3 months ago why do they need it now? And obviously they need it bad enough that some are even willing to spend over $200 for a brick of 22's. I refuse to take care of stupid people. On the other hand I can see myself doing the same thing you did by giving that kid a box of ammo.

Are you selling any of your ammo to people at the same price you paid for it?

 

[XtremeVel]

Some shops should impose qty restrictions makes sure the wealth is spread out to everyone.

Shouldn't that decision be left to each individual shop owner ?

If you owned the shop, why the world would you want to treat a very loyal customer, one that has given you business through both good and bad times, the same equal service as the new face that has never stepped foot in your shop and is only there now because his China mart shelves are bare ?

 

[Fireman610]

If they didn't need it 3 months ago why do they need it now? And obviously they need it bad enough that some are even willing to spend over $200 for a brick of 22's. I refuse to take care of stupid people. On the other hand I can see myself doing the same thing you did by giving that kid a box of ammo.

Are you selling any of your ammo to people at the same price you paid for it?

No I havnt sold any ammo for more than I paid for it. Now on two occasions I did drive to a place south of Nashville to get ammo that they wouldn't ship and a friend wanted me to pick his up also, he gave me $$ for fuel and bought my lunch I dunno if that constitutes selling for more than I paid but it was offered and not forced. It came out cheaper for him anyways due to his beast drinking gas like a construction worker drinking water on a August Indiana day

 

[hornadylnl]

Some shops should impose qty restrictions makes sure the wealth is spread out to everyone.

How many conservatives wet themselves when Obama told joe the plumber that he wanted to spread the wealth around?

Reading these threads amazes me that the repub party was able to nominate someone as conservative as Romney is.

 

[Fireman610]

Shouldn't that decision be left to each individual shop owner ?

If you owned the shop, why the world would you want to treat a very loyal customer, one that has given you business through both good and bad times, the same equal service as the new face that has never stepped foot in your shop and is only there now because his China mart shelves are bare ?

Well if it was a regular loyal customer Id cut them a lil slack But Im usually in this shop atleast once a week and have done considerable business there never seen this guy and Im pretty sure he wasn't local according to his Ohio Plates

 

[hornadylnl]

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

I've been buying ammo for 17 years. Prices go up an down. Supplies of this or that come and go.

We had these same discussions a few years ago. I'm sure we'll have them again in a few years.

I simply can't wrap my mind around the fact that people who have been buying ammo for more than a couple years and/or who have been on the internet in the past few years have been caught with their pants down.. in most cases *again*.

After the 2008 debacle, I instituted a 2 box rule for .22lr. Every time I had to go into walmart for something, I bought two boxes of .22lr 1,100 rounds for $21 with tax. I did that for a year or so, until prices reached the ridiculous level of $13.99 per box of 550.

I have 2 and half .30 cal cans of .22lr down in the basement now. Hoarding? I call it saving for retirement.

Likewise, we had the reloading scare of '08. I was consulting out in Michigan City and would stop by the local shop out there (the guy is douche BTW, I refuse to shop there anymore) once a week to pick up 2 500 round boxes of 230 gr .45acp bullets. $34.50 a box. I have around 10 boxes sitting down stairs. Hoarding? Again, it's saving for retirement.

I feel for the people who just got into shooting recently, I do.

I really have no sympathy for the people who, week after week, would only buy what they needed to shoot for that week and never put any back for a rainy day.

It's raining folks, and most of the people complaining in this thread had YEARS if not decades to have some extra ammo set aside. I've bought all of 3 boxes of ammo since Sandy Hook. A total of 150 rounds of 9mm I sold to a friend for the price on my receipt.

We need to save this thread so we can come back in another 3-4 years and see these same people, *****ing about the same stuff, because they failed to do anything about it.

It'll be the same whiners, guaranteed.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Maybe you should be selling your ammo at the lower prices so people will see that the prices have come back down. Then you can see if you can even replace what you have sold.

I do not have much 22 left after helping some people out voluntarily. So, if anyone now wants a brick of 22 from me it will cost them $75 because I do not know when I will be able to replace it. A person just needs to want it more than I want to sell it.

 

[XtremeVel]

I simply can't wrap my mind around the fact that people who have been buying ammo for more than a couple years and/or who have been on the internet in the past few years have been caught with their pants down.. in most cases *again*.
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That's the frustrating part... In many of those cases, a great deal of effort was made to get them on board and get prepared.... Seems like there is a significant number that didn't learn from prior shortages... Bail them out once, and they will EXPECT it the next time....

I really have no sympathy for the people who, week after week, would only buy what they needed to shoot for that week and never put any back for a rainy day.

It's raining folks, and most of the people complaining in this thread had YEARS if not decades to have some extra ammo set aside. I've bought all of 3 boxes of ammo since Sandy Hook. A total of 150 rounds of 9mm I sold to a friend for the price on my receipt.

We need to save this thread so we can come back in another 3-4 years and see these same people, *****ing about the same stuff, because they failed to do anything about it.

I can not grasp how this should of surprised anyone. We all saw it coming ! Granted, Sandy Hook just made things much worse, but we were telling everyone prior to the election season we were going to see 2008 all over again....

Personally, I have worked on MANY the last few years and have tried to get them into reloading... I will continue to do the same, but I sadly expect no different results...

 

[Bunnykid68]

Personally, I have worked on MANY the last few years and have tried to get them into reloading... I will continue to do the same, but I sadly expect no different results...

You make a very good point here about reloading. I was getting ready to take someones reloading class a couple months ago and now I cannot even find supplies and equipment for reloading but you will not hear me whining about it. I waited to long and now I have to wait again for the market to settle back down.

 

[techres]

Just had to double check my browser address bar again. I could have swore I stumbled onto Democart Underground again.

You forget the important rule:

Everyone's a socialist when the buy and a capitalist when the sell.

It's just a trusism.

 

[anifong]

You forget the important rule:

Everyone's a socialist when the buy and a capitalist when the sell.

It's just a trusism.

 

[hornadylnl]

Maybe you should be selling your ammo at the lower prices so people will see that the prices have come back down. Then you can see if you can even replace what you have sold.

I do not have much 22 left after helping some people out voluntarily. So, if anyone now wants a brick of 22 from me it will cost them $75 because I do not know when I will be able to replace it. A person just needs to want it more than I want to sell it.

I'll start selling 22 when it hits $1 a round. There are many here I wouldn't sell it to for $10 a round.

 

[hornadylnl]

You forget the important rule:

Everyone's a socialist when the buy and a capitalist when the sell.

It's just a trusism.

Yes, but a great many here would throw a fit if a Obama or a democrat in congress said the very same words they're posting here.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I'll start selling 22 when it hits $1 a round. There are many here I wouldn't sell it to for $10 a round.

So you are saying my $75 a box may be to low?

 

[XtremeVel]

You make a very good point here about reloading. I was getting ready to take someones reloading class a couple months ago and now I cannot even find supplies and equipment for reloading but you will not hear me whining about it. I waited to long and now I have to wait again for the market to settle back down.

I can only speak on issues like this from a reloading standpoint.... That's the only my my brain works anymore.... Well, you still have the exception of .22 though...

I simply don't buy there are as many out there that really " need " ammo as these thread make it out to be... I insist on reserving my right to decide who needs help myself, and I have in my way, offered to help a handful. The surprising thing is out of the people I deemed really "needing " help, I have only had TWO take me up on the offer to show them how to load their own on my equipment and only paying for my components at a pre craziness price... That only goes to convince me they are only lazy or didn't need it as bad as they thought they did....

Anyhow, still get into reloading.... If you need anymore convincing from what you already know, simply take any dollar amount and compare... Take $1000.00 for example and compare to how very little ammo you'd be laying in and comparing it to how much ammo you could load if you spent that same $1000.00 on bullets, primers, and powder....

 

[Bunnykid68]

I can only speak on issues like this from a reloading standpoint.... That's the only my my brain works anymore.... Well, you still have the exception of .22 though...

I simply don't buy there are as many out there that really " need " ammo as these thread make it out to be... I insist on reserving my right to decide who needs help myself, and I have in my way, offered to help a handful. The surprising thing is out of the people I deemed really "needing " help, I have only had TWO take me up on the offer to show them how to load their own on my equipment and only paying for my components at a pre craziness price... That only goes to convince me they are only lazy or didn't need it as bad as they thought they did....

Anyhow, still get into reloading.... If you need anymore convincing from what you already know, simply take any dollar amount and compare... Take $1000.00 for example and compare to how very little ammo you'd be laying in and comparing it to how much ammo you could load if you spent that same $1000.00 on bullets, primers, and powder....

I don't need anymore convincing, just waiting for everything to be in stock again and if you were just a little closer I would definitely take you up on your offer.

 

[xryan.jacksonx]

I have NO obsession with legality. For you to claim I do is totally false, you are only assuming and speculating, nothing more.

Further is there something wrong with wishing folks obey the laws, or do you wish to live in anarchy?



How does this equate to the discussion, unless of course you are advocating a revolt?



Ridiculous, doesn't even deserve a comment.

I might ask what is your obsession to live in a lawless society?

It is not just speculation. You have brought up multiple times, the legal implications of what people are doing in peaceful, voluntary transactions. It is clear that you don't like what they are doing and wish for them to get snared up by some regulatory agency and end up in prison or face huge fines.

Answer my question. Will you be the first one to hand over your gun? If not then you are just a hypocrite. If you cite the law as a reason to act a certain way and you ever break a law because you disagree with it then you are a hypocrite. You are as philosophically hollow as Paris Hilton and just as whiny when you don't get your way.

When laws are nonsense, such as the ones you are advocating for price controls, yes there is something wrong with them. On top of everything, this isn't just a disagreement about how people should act. Mathematically and economically your ideas are flat wrong. Even Paul Krugman would probably agree with that.

As far as my obsession with living in a "lawless" society, you misunderstand. I think private property owners should be able to set any regulations they want, some even far beyond what is permissible today. It would be "illegal" to carry a gun is some places if the owner deemed it so, but you could do whatever you wanted on your own land. No one would come carry you off to jail for shortening your barrel from 16" to 15.9".

What I don't agree with is that if 51 people out of 100 in a fancy room in DC decide that they don't like something, even something peaceful, they send men with guns to forcibly change it.

 

[XtremeVel]

I don't need anymore convincing, just waiting for everything to be in stock again and if you were just a little closer I would definitely take you up on your offer.

Hey, I clearly stated I reserve my right to deem who I felt was truly needy.... My judgement is still out on you yet.... (purple not working).....

If this shortage gets much worse before it gets better, that distance might not seem to far away....

 

[hornadylnl]

I can only speak on issues like this from a reloading standpoint.... That's the only my my brain works anymore.... Well, you still have the exception of .22 though...

I simply don't buy there are as many out there that really " need " ammo as these thread make it out to be... I insist on reserving my right to decide who needs help myself, and I have in my way, offered to help a handful. The surprising thing is out of the people I deemed really "needing " help, I have only had TWO take me up on the offer to show them how to load their own on my equipment and only paying for my components at a pre craziness price... That only goes to convince me they are only lazy or didn't need it as bad as they thought they did....

Anyhow, still get into reloading.... If you need anymore convincing from what you already know, simply take any dollar amount and compare... Take $1000.00 for example and compare to how very little ammo you'd be laying in and comparing it to how much ammo you could load if you spent that same $1000.00 on bullets, primers, and powder....

Everybody has time to tell their sad, sad stories but never time to actually do something about it. It seem everybody and their brother wants firewood until you tell them you're not cutting, splitting, delivering, and stacking it for them. I have a hell of a time getting people to show up to haul off wood already cut down to length. They just need to split it and haul it.

If these people put forth a tenth of the effort 6 months ago buying ammo as they do here complaining about gougers, they wouldn't be out of ammo now. Again, I don't understand the concept of the people who still want to go out blasting hundreds of rounds a month during this shortage. If you had a 6 month supply of food and the grocery store shelves are bare with no new supply in site, do you begin eating on your 6 month supply like it has to last you a year or a couple of months?

 

[warthog]

... I'm talking about drunks speeding and killing...

FREEDOM! Isn't it Great to be a scofflaw!?!
Until the same drunk kills someone close to you, then suddenly you want justice and it is evolution anymore, or is it?