A First Amendment right to record the police

[Kutnupe14]

And again, if we were truly free, there`d not be a need for court cases regardless. It`s not freedom when it takes a citizen with the means to fight a legal battle in court to be free. Freedom would be not allowing the event to occur in the first place.

No one isn't saying there isn't room for improvement. There is ALWAYS room for improvement, for any place shot of paradise. The fact that the case actually went to court, and the understanding of our legal system, I personally believe, is indicative of us NOT being a police state.

 

[littletommy]

As Commandant Supreme of the Police State, i order you to cease your discussion of said Police State.

Mmmmmmm........Commandant Supreme.........I like mine with double extra pepperoni!

 

[IndyDave1776]

While we are still a long way from North Korea, I also believe we should take the words of Merle Haggard into consideration:

In 1960, when I came out of prison as an ex-convict, I had more freedom under parolee supervision than there's available... in America right now.

 

[gregr]

As Commandant Supreme of the Police State, i order you to cease your discussion of said Police State.

In retrospect, I suppose I may have overstated things a bit...

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

In retrospect, I suppose I may have overstated things a bit...

Probably.

 

[gregr]

While we are still a long way from North Korea, I also believe we should take the words of Merle Haggard into consideration:

Agreed. And even though I overstated the issue earlier, this is my concern, and I believe it`s a valid concern. Freedom and liberty are eroding in America.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Agreed. And even though I overstated the issue earlier, this is my concern, and I believe it`s a valid concern. Freedom and liberty are eroding in America.

I am with you and would add that the single most dangerous phrase to freedom in the English language is "This is America, that can't happen here!"

 

[gregr]

I am with you and would add that the single most dangerous phrase to freedom in the English language is "This is America, that can't happen here!"

 

[Bill of Rights]

Agreed. And even though I overstated the issue earlier, this is my concern, and I believe it`s a valid concern. Freedom and liberty are eroding in America.

Much better stated here. I doubt anyone here or I suspect even on the other side would argue that point. In the same breath, though, people say they want freedom but think that "there oughta be a law" to prohibit that with which they do not agree.
It's contradictory and "anti-freedom", but I suppose if it's for a cause/reason with which you agree....

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Kirk Freeman]

So, um, you guys thing this so-called "First Amendment right" applies to Access to Public Records Act/Freedom of Information Act requests that are sent to county government?

Um, I am asking for a friend.

 

[T.Lex]

So, um, you guys thing this so-called "First Amendment right" applies to Access to Public Records Act/Freedom of Information Act requests that are sent to county government?

Um, I am asking for a friend.

I... uh... have a friend who thinks the 2 are unrelated.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I... uh... have a friend who thinks the 2 are unrelated.

So, it's ok to make up b.s. fake charges about people that file FOIA about their government? Well, that's a relief.

 

[T.Lex]

So, it's ok to make up b.s. fake charges about people that file FOIA about their government? Well, that's a relief.

Wow - that's an Olympic record conclusion-jump.

Fake charges are not ok.

Messing around with APRA is not ok, by either side of the transaction.

BTW, so you're friend's been charged by information, or do you mean "charges" as in "rumors"?

 

[SwikLS]

From what I see most of these incidents involving violations of basic constitutional rights take place in Democrat-run enclaves. Now granted, Democrat-run enclaves are usually high population areas and so there is a higher likelihood of constitutional violations because there are more potential incidents, but still its worth noting.

 

[jamil]

Wow - that's an Olympic record conclusion-jump.

Fake charges are not ok.

Messing around with APRA is not ok, by either side of the transaction.

BTW, so you're friend's been charged by information, or do you mean "charges" as in "rumors"?

Your*

 

[T.Lex]

Your*

B****h.



There should be a 2-coffee minimum before calling out spelling/grammar errors.

 

[jamil]

I haven't had my coffee yet.

 

[T.Lex]

I haven't had my coffee yet.

I'm going to file an APRA request to confirm.

 

[jamil]

I'm going to file an APRA request to confirm.

I'm pretty sure that doesn't apply to private citizens.

 

[chipbennett]

We are a police state my friend.

FTA:

Every Circuit Court of Appeals to address this issue (First, Fifth, Seventh, Ninth, and Eleventh) has held that there is a First Amendment right to record police activity in public... Today we [the Third Circuit Court of Appeals] join this growing consensus. Simply put, the First Amendment protects the act of photographing, filming, or otherwise recording police officers conducting their official duties in public.

So, maybe anyone living within the jurisdiction of the Second, Fourth, Sixth, Eighth, and Tenth Circuit Courts of Appeals could claim to be living in a police state with regard to this matter (if you can find someone who has had the applicable rights restricted), but not most of the country.