A Look At A Norwegian Prison

[2A_Tom]

NationMaster - Crime stats: Norway vs United States

Population:
Norway 2011=4,920,305
Indiana 2010=6,483,802
USA. 2010=308,745,538

 

[dross]

Population:
Norway 2011=4,920,305
Indiana 2010=6,483,802
USA. 2010=308,745,538

And your point is?

 

[Fletch]

Population:
Norway 2011=4,920,305
Indiana 2010=6,483,802
USA. 2010=308,745,538

This would be why most of the stats presented are done in total numbers as well as per capita.

 

[dross]

This would be why most of the stats presented are done in total numbers as well as per capita.

I was getting there! I just wanted to lead him in steps.

 

[redneckmedic]

You would think the crime rate would be much higher.... state pays for conjugal visits

At Halden, half of all guards are female, which its governor believes reduces tension

 

[Fletch]

I was getting there! I just wanted to lead him in steps.

LMAO

 

[NYFelon]

Kryste. That cell is nicer than my first apartment (studio).

 

[Fletch]

Kryste. That cell is nicer than my first apartment (studio).

It definitely looked better than my college dorm room.

If I ever found myself single, dogless, and needing to live in the city (all of which are damned unlikely), I'd probably look for a hyper-efficiency apartment much like that.

 

[NYFelon]

Ha.

Just cruise to Norway and bust a few windows.

 

[Amattern]

This is how they deserve to be treated right? Yea they raped and murdered people, some even raped and murdered children. But there still humans so we have to make sure they are living in the upmost comfort. Forget those people who work hard and obey the law. These people in prison are the ones we need to focus on.

 

[2A_Tom]

If you are laughing then you did not read all of those statistics and analyze them .

USA is ranked 2d in fraud against Norwas's 22d until you look at per capita then we are 18th as opposed to their 7th.

Same situation with jails, drugs,and car thefts.

Also both listings of safety perception say we are better.

The one thing that really surprized me wasthat they only prosceute 1:408 as opposed to our 1:22.

 

[wabash]

is that a TV remote?

 

[Fletch]

is that a TV remote?

Yes, and the black thing on the wall at the foot of the bed is the TV.

 

[Amattern]

is that a TV remote?

get up to change the channel you must be crazy that would interfere with their rehabilitation time. You act like their criminals or something....... oh wait...

 

[88GT]

There are many factors and many reasons our recidivism rates are so high.

You guys aren't really suggesting we could take some of our people from a maximum security prison and transfer them to Norway and they'd be cooperating and cooking meals with their fellow inmates and hanging out with guards and then getting out to a crime free productive life, are you?

In my opinion, the biggest factor in crime is culture. We have a variety of diverse cultures in this country, some of which tend to produce more than their fair share of criminals. Show me a city's demographic makeup and I can predict what kind of crime rate they have. I can also tell you where the worst neighborhoods are, and the best. I don't need to know the poverty statistics, either.

I'd say that a Norway type prison would be appropriate for certain types of criminals here, but that would be unpopular. Most of our criminals shouldn't BE criminals anyway, if they are in prison for consensual acts that we have criminalized. For that matter, most of the criminals in Norway shouldn't be in prison either.

tried to rep for this but it seems I have maxed out for the time being.

 

[CarmelHP]

I've read a few things from actual Norwegians who say we're misunderstanding. The prisons we are focusing on are the nicest, lowest security, white collar prisons where non-violent prisoners are sentenced. Sentences are said to be a maximum of 21 years, but are renewable for further 21 year stints if you're considered to dangerous to release. A little different than what's been presented here.

 

[whoismunky]

There are many factors and many reasons our recidivism rates are so high.

You guys aren't really suggesting we could take some of our people from a maximum security prison and transfer them to Norway and they'd be cooperating and cooking meals with their fellow inmates and hanging out with guards and then getting out to a crime free productive life, are you?

In my opinion, the biggest factor in crime is culture. We have a variety of diverse cultures in this country, some of which tend to produce more than their fair share of criminals. Show me a city's demographic makeup and I can predict what kind of crime rate they have. I can also tell you where the worst neighborhoods are, and the best. I don't need to know the poverty statistics, either.

I'd say that a Norway type prison would be appropriate for certain types of criminals here, but that would be unpopular. Most of our criminals shouldn't BE criminals anyway, if they are in prison for consensual acts that we have criminalized. For that matter, most of the criminals in Norway shouldn't be in prison either.

Powerful statement about the times we're livin in

 

[Sylvain]

I've read a few things from actual Norwegians who say we're misunderstanding. The prisons we are focusing on are the nicest, lowest security, white collar prisons where non-violent prisoners are sentenced. Sentences are said to be a maximum of 21 years, but are renewable for further 21 year stints if you're considered to dangerous to release. A little different than what's been presented here.

This! ^^

In France we have prisons that look just like this ones, nice rooms and no bars on the windows.
They are usually for minors or for adults with no criminal records that will just spend a few months or even weeks for DUI or other non-violent crimes.
It's not were people stay for 10 or 20 years for murder.

 

[Scutter01]

I now have an idea for a private prison in the USA.

A hollowed-out volcano run by Willy Wonka's psychopathic brother?

 

[ATOMonkey]

It definitely looked better than my college dorm room.

If I ever found myself single, dogless, and needing to live in the city (all of which are damned unlikely), I'd probably look for a hyper-efficiency apartment much like that.

You should have gone to richy rich private school. We had maids and everything!