Anybody here use Mini-Splits for HVAC?

[ghitch75]

I see, just bash the products you don't like.

I think you better add up the parts for a Gas Furnace/Air Conditioner compared to a Heat Pump with Electric Back-up.

no bashing at all just over 30 years of working on them and what causes the most trouble........

 

[sig-guy]

no bashing at all just over 30 years of working on them and what causes the most trouble........

They've changed in the past 30 years. How many have YOU installed in the last 10 years? Are you working on them, or just the ones from other companies?

Most trouble starts with a **** poor installation. From people which have very little knowledge of what it takes to do things properly.

 

[ghitch75]

They've changed in the past 30 years. How many have YOU installed in the last 10 years? Are you working on them, or just the ones from other companies?

Most trouble starts with a **** poor installation. From people which have very little knowledge of what it takes to do things properly.

i'm still doing it to the day.....

i have installed close to 30 a year if not more in the past 10 years and work on over 1k.........i have installed every brand and type out there from 1 ton to over 1k ton.....

i have mopped up after "**** poor" installs my whole career.......oh and i still stand behind what i said about HP's......if you like to stay warm when it's cold out and get the most for your money stay away from HP's........

but i'll put in what every anyone wants and it is installed to the manufacturers spec's and per code.......

 

[sig-guy]

i'm still doing it to the day.....

i have installed close to 30 a year if not more in the past 10 years and work on over 1k.........i have installed every brand and type out there from 1 ton to over 1k ton.....

i have mopped up after "**** poor" installs my whole career.......oh and i still stand behind what i said about HP's......if you like to stay warm when it's cold out and get the most for your money stay away from HP's........

but i'll put in what every anyone wants and it is installed to the manufacturers spec's and per code.......

Ok, you're still installing them today. But are you working on YOUR installs or others. I highly doubt you're working on yours.

And are you saying YOUR HP customers are not staying warm and comfortable? If so, something IS wrong.

 

[ghitch75]

Ok, you're still installing them today. But are you working on YOUR installs or others. I highly doubt you're working on yours.



And are you saying YOUR HP customers are not staying warm and comfortable? If so, something IS wrong.

not 30 HP's 30 installs of gas and HP'S.....90% gas 10% HP's/Elect.

i work on my installs and others.......just this summer i have removed 15 WORKING HP systems and replaced them with gas because they don't like the drafty air and high electric bill ........some only a few years old.....the others are just dealing with them because they can't afford to change them.......

there is nothing wrong as they are running fine as to spec and to heat load for the house........when a house need 90kbtus of heat and 42kbtus of cool you just can't get 90k from a 42k HP and then their ran to death......

 

[IndyGunworks]

Guys, I fully understand the pro's and con's of heat pumps. Not every situation has a clear cut answer. the mini splits in my situation ARE more than likely the best solution economically, even though it may not give me the most comforitable environment. I am looking into other methods of heating as well. Lets not argue the pro's and cons of heat pumps as I would like to keep this thread informative in nature.

Gary, did you receive the blue prints yet?

 

[ghitch75]

yes i got them and sent you a pm....

 

[sig-guy]

Lets not argue the pro's and cons of heat pumps as I would like to keep this thread informative in nature.

I'll leave on this...

There's a problem when I can rip out gas furnaces and replace them with HP's and the results are:

1) Happy Homeowners
2) Comfortable Homeowners (often more comfortable)
3) Homeowners who are happy with their utility bills (saving money)
4) Reliable systems which do not experience the problems everybody talks about

and yet there seems to be nobody else who can duplicate the results?

 

[churchmouse]

I'll leave on this...

There's a problem when I can rip out gas furnaces and replace them with HP's and the results are:

1) Happy Homeowners
2) Comfortable Homeowners (often more comfortable)
3) Homeowners who are happy with their utility bills (saving money)
4) Reliable systems which do not experience the problems everybody talks about

and yet there seems to be nobody else who can duplicate the results?

Not true. Results are depending on the consumer as much as the installer. We can do the best job with an install and some folks (and service people) just do not like pumps. It is not an end all fix for some applications. That you are so stead fast either means you are a heat pump God or a magic man.
I have removed 2 from homes that got smashed last year with insane electric bills due to the weather conditions. These people were just not happy with the systems and yes, they were operating at spec.

Indy, I will have your info today or tomorrow. Been slammed.

 

[sig-guy]

means you are a heat pump God or a magic man.

Neither, just the best end manufacture of HVAC equipment.

 

[churchmouse]

Neither, just the best end manufacture of HVAC equipment.

I am laughing....good come back.

 

[ghitch75]

Neither, just the best end manufacture of HVAC equipment.

and that would be????????????????????????

 

[IndyGunworks]

Please do tell who this manufacturer is that will not ever need repair if installed correctly.

 

[DocIndy]

I'm curious too... We install hundreds of thousands of dollars in HVAC equipment annually and if your equipment is the best, I need to switch brands.....

 

[churchmouse]

I'm curious too... We install hundreds of thousands of dollars in HVAC equipment annually and if your equipment is the best, I need to switch brands.....

Hey Doc.....staying busy I would think.

 

[DocIndy]

Just got back from Texas. Just a little 1.1m square foot warehouse.

 

[churchmouse]

Just got back from Texas. Just a little 1.1m square foot warehouse.

Ugh. I hate the long road trips. Not missing that at all.

 

[DocIndy]

Road trip?... Not this time. Made the drive to Houston to get the party started. I enjoy the friendly sky's as much as possible. I've been watching this cat fight from the shadows. Let me know when you narrow down the equipment and I will see if there are more cost effective options other than Mitsubishi. Those guys are just overpriced. LG has some nice stuff.

 

[churchmouse]

Road trip?... Not this time. Made the drive to Houston to get the party started. I enjoy the friendly sky's as much as possible. I've been watching this cat fight from the shadows. Let me know when you narrow down the equipment and I will see if there are more cost effective options other than Mitsubishi. Those guys are just overpriced. LG has some nice stuff.

Been looking into Fujitsu and they are proud of them as well. The equipment is very flexible as to capacity's and box count/location.
Not looked at LG yet.
Who handles the line locally??

 

[DocIndy]

Koch used to until Carrier teamed up with Toshiba. Larry Moore at VCS has LG. Have you looked into the VRV/ VRF stuff? A lot less condensers just some more pipe. Less electrical load.