Bill Making Happy Hour Legal Heads To Governors Desk…

[BehindBlueI's]

Don’t think I have ever bought singles in my life and six packs since high school…

In my misspent youth, it was a fairly common thing for folks to realize they had planned poorly and need beer on Sunday, which you had to cross the river to buy. So you'd buy a warm case or two and a cold get home beer or two...

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Another funny liquor law I remember from my traveling work days was in the little town of Dalhart TX. Dalhart is on the upper panhandle of Texas and straddles two counties. When I was there, in the late 80's, one of those counties was dry and the other one was not. My friends and I would go to a bar called Swayze's that was on the dry side of town. At Swayze's, they could serve beer and wine, but not spirits; however, you could buy a bottle of spirits at the liquor store on the other side of town and bring it into the bar to drink it. You had to show your bottle to the waitress and keep it on the table, and they charged more for your Coke if you were drinking liquor.

 

[littletommy]

I think Corbin Kentucky is still partially dry. It used to be if you were on the west side of I75, you could buy beer, on the east, nope. I always wondered why Sonnys bbq chose to build on the wrong side of the highway.

 

[littletommy]

In my misspent youth, it was a fairly common thing for folks to realize they had planned poorly and need beer on Sunday, which you had to cross the river to buy. So you'd buy a warm case or two and a cold get home beer or two...

Mike walsh liquor store in downtown Louisville. Made a trip there almost every Sunday back in the 80s and early 90s. The place closed shortly after Indiana got Sunday sales. Usually on Sunday, the entire parking lot was full of Indiana cars.

 

[chipbennett]

Remember seeing news video of people at bars with their nights worth of eight drinks in front of them after they bought four drinks buy one get one free…

Not something that needed changing. The funny part is most national chains just offered the drinks that were happy hour specials in other states all day here to comply with the law…

Counter-point: not something that needed state regulation in the first place. Responsible people would be responsible, and irresponsible people would be irresponsible, either way. Driving under the influence of alcohol would remain illegal, either way.

I don't need the state babysitting me.

 

[chipbennett]

It wasn't the reduced price that was the issue. It was the limited time thing. Like Mike said above, people would go in and order 8 drinks at a time. Some might nurse them all night, but a lot would just down them in the limited time that they were offered, getting hammered really quick and then driving home. I remember them well. A lot of places had deals on appetizers too, like 25 cent peel and eat shrimp or wings.

So?

Do you really think they're not going to do that, one way or the other? Drunk driving is illegal, regardless of how much an intoxicated person pays for their drinks or what time of the day they buy those drinks.

 

[chipbennett]

You've overestimated my level of interest in arguing a side. I'm just trying to get the Beastie Boys stuck in people's heads.

Mission Accomplished!

 

[chipbennett]

There will always be laws (rules for how society will operate) needed to some degree. Humans are incapable of operating without such laws. Proponents say selling alcohol based on time encourages excess consumption of those already impaired…

Laws should be based on regulating behaviors that are inherently harmful. Drunk driving is inherently harmful. Paying half price for an alcoholic beverage is not inherently harmful.

 

[chipbennett]

”It's rather silly that selling alcoholic beverages at a reduced price is illegal.”

That is not what the law said. Paraphrased, it said you cannot sell alcohol based on time.

How about a bar offers more free drinks if you buy ten drinks in a hour?

I get the whole freedom thing generally, do we have any laws? If there are any you want to keep, makes those special?

How about it? Maybe I'm buying for a group. Maybe I'm buying a round for the bar. Maybe I'm not planning on driving, and it doesn't matter how plastered I get.

Less nanny state, please.

 

[chipbennett]

Did anyone note the law also allows to-go cocktails? What are thoughts on that?

Food delivery services (Door Dash, Uber Eats) are going to love it. And so are people who want to carry out to enjoy their meals (and cocktails) at home.

 

[chipbennett]

This thinking is interesting to me, so do we have no laws?

Holy Straw Man, Batman.

 

[chipbennett]

So do away with all alcohol laws? Should DUI go away? After all until they hit someone they didn’t hurt anyone else?

This is the Straw Man. DUI inherently causes harm. Selling beverages at an agreed-upon price does not inherently cause harm.

 

[chipbennett]

So we do away with all excise laws? Bars open 24-7-365? Drug store selling $1 fifths of vodka with a prescription?

Sure. I'm in favor of getting rid of all such laws.

Maximize freedom. Hold people accountable for acting responsibly in the exercise of that freedom.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Mike walsh liquor store in downtown Louisville. Made a trip there almost every Sunday back in the 80s and early 90s. The place closed shortly after Indiana got Sunday sales. Usually on Sunday, the entire parking lot was full of Indiana cars.

People of a certain age in my area of Indiana remember going to the Triangle bar in Greenville, Ohio to drink 3.2 beer after you turned 18.

I also remember a big dust-up between several groups of fine folks at a local seasonal campground where police were called in to restore order. I was told that the cause of the ruckus was that somebody drank somebody else's "Sunday beer" on Saturday.

 

[Ingomike]

I don't need the state babysitting me.

You and me both, but apparently many believe those that do need babysitting do need it…

 

[Ingomike]

Laws should be based on regulating behaviors that are inherently harmful. Drunk driving is inherently harmful. Paying half price for an alcoholic beverage is not inherently harmful.

The law is not about price at all. It is about selling based on time. Truth is we consumers benefited by special priced drinks being available all day…

 

[Ingomike]

This is the Straw Man. DUI inherently causes harm. Selling beverages at an agreed-upon price does not inherently cause harm.

The law is not about price.

 

[chipbennett]

The law is not about price at all. It is about selling based on time. Truth is we consumers benefited by special priced drinks being available all day…

Same difference. Selling alcoholic beverages based on time is not inherently harmful.

Sellers can still offer special-priced drinks all day, if they so choose - unless I am mistaken.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

You and me both, but apparently many believe those that do need babysitting do need it…

I'm on the fence too. I believe in freedom, but I also know that some people use their freedom in ways very different than I would even consider.

 

[chipbennett]

The law is not about price.

Selling alcoholic beverages at an agreed-upon time also does not inherently cause harm.