Calling Marines and others "Soldiers"

[hornadylnl]

...and that's as it should be. Your goals and aspirations belong only to you.

The Corps does not mourn the absence of those who chose to join other services. You're no exception.


Thanks for your service. Semper Fidelis

Fine by me. I don't have a complex about it.

 

[abnk]

I've trained with Marines in different occasions. In my experience, most of them were great guys, humble, and had a sense of humor. For some reason, former Marines (those with a DD214) seem to get butthurt easy. It's pretty funny.

 

[1911 mike]

We are "ALL" brothers, being at war or at peace.And that's how it is!!

 

[MickeyBlueEyes]

I had this conversation with my wife cause she was Nasty Guard, federal training doesn't constitute you being in the Army. Federal Active Duty does. I can't stand hearing how some nasty guard person that never left stateside and only served the one weekend a month and two weeks a year was a Veteran good for you buddy.

 

[hornadylnl]

I have nothing to do with the "grandmaster" thing that so offends you. That's put there by INGO. I have nothing to do with the Masons or any other such organization.

I have a total of 8 years of active duty Army and National Guard service. I'm a citizen just like any other, not a noble. I don't expect people to bow to me or give me respect just because I served. If someone is trying to show me respect and gets the terminology wrong, I take it in the manner in which it was intended, not as a slight.

I've said before that I've never met a Marine that made me wish that I had joined the Marines instead of the Army. You're no exception.

I had this conversation with my wife cause she was Nasty Guard, federal training doesn't constitute you being in the Army. Federal Active Duty does. I can't stand hearing how some nasty guard person that never left stateside and only served the one weekend a month and two weeks a year was a Veteran good for you buddy.

If you're talking to me, reading comprehension fails you. I said I have 8 years active duty Army AND National Guard.

 

[Rookie]

And you're a grandmaster!

 

[Ljungman]

Coast Guard are Coast Guardsmen

No....not true...i prefer the term "Puddle Pirate", "Shallow water sailor", "Stripers" or "Carribean Cruiser" my self. But even we dont refer to ourselves really as Coast guardsmen....mostly just Coasties. And we arent really touchy anymore since we belong to our own service branch and government branch. No longer under the DOD, or the DOT, and not under navy control. But my good freinds are marines..and i too have noticed they are a bit..."particular" about being addressed as "Marine".

 

[hornadylnl]

And you're a grandmaster!

If it makes him feel any better, I don't consider myself a veteran. It is MY PERSONAL OPINION that the term veteran belongs to those who have been in combat.

 

[Rookie]

If it makes him feel any better, I don't consider myself a veteran. It is MY PERSONAL OPINION that the term veteran belongs to those who have been in combat.

As someone who served in the military, but was never in combat, I agree with you.

 

[hornadylnl]

As someone who served in the military, but was never in combat, I agree with you.

It has been my experience that most who haven't served equate the term veteran with someone who has seen combat. I will not get veterans plates, wear veterans apparel because I won't falsely give the impression that I've been to combat. I've been to shows carrying a military pack and was asked if I was in Iraq. I immediately say no.

 

[OEF5]

I had this conversation with my wife cause she was Nasty Guard, federal training doesn't constitute you being in the Army. Federal Active Duty does. I can't stand hearing how some nasty guard person that never left stateside and only served the one weekend a month and two weeks a year was a Veteran good for you buddy.

You do know that for the State of Indiana they have the highest deployment rate over any other State right. You do know that a vast majority of those National Guardsmen/women have multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. You do know that they leave thier homes and families for long periods of time to help provide the very same freedoms that you swore to protect. You do know that they die in those contries as well don't you? If you think they are a "less" of a branch of service, I feel sorry for you.

Thanks for being a Marine, really, not my cup of tea. But don't lump the Guard into not being in the Army because the uniform says it, the contract says it, the Oath is the same, and the ID card is the same. Actually when I think back on it, the Oath is the same for all branches, when I went to Meps all branches stood and raised thier right hands, National Guard too!

So be proud to be a Marine, you earned it, just as I earned being a Soldier, just as anyone in the National Guard earned being a Soldier.


All of that being said, we are all warriors and we are all equal... We will always think that our branch of service is better than another, we will always give each other crap. We will also all be the first ones to stand back to back if a civilian tries to give us crap.

 

[Kagnew]

I had this conversation with my wife cause she was Nasty Guard, federal training doesn't constitute you being in the Army. Federal Active Duty does.

Horse hockey. The reserve components (i.e., the Army National Guard and the US Army Reserve) are absolutely part of the US Army, whether serving on Title 10 or on Title 32.

Get your facts straight before poor-mouthing the "Nasty Guard". There are probably a lot of ARNG and USAR soldiers who have spent more time OCONUS than you have.

 

[Kagnew]

If it makes him feel any better, I don't consider myself a veteran. It is MY PERSONAL OPINION that the term veteran belongs to those who have been in combat.

Anyone who has completed their basic and AIT is a "veteran" (a term not to be equated with "combat veteran").

 

[Kagnew]

You do know that for the State of Indiana they have the highest deployment rate over any other State right. You do know that a vast majority of those National Guardsmen/women have multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. You do know that they leave thier homes and families for long periods of time to help provide the very same freedoms that you swore to protect. You do know that they die in those contries as well don't you? If you think they are a "less" of a branch of service, I feel sorry for you.

Thanks for being a Marine, really, not my cup of tea. But don't lump the Guard into not being in the Army because the uniform says it, the contract says it, the Oath is the same, and the ID card is the same. Actually when I think back on it, the Oath is the same for all branches, when I went to Meps all branches stood and raised thier right hands, National Guard too!

So be proud to be a Marine, you earned it, just as I earned being a Soldier, just as anyone in the National Guard earned being a Soldier.


All of that being said, we are all warriors and we are all equal... We will always think that our branch of service is better than another, we will always give each other crap. We will also all be the first ones to stand back to back if a civilian tries to give us crap.

+1!

 

[Rookie]

Anyone who has completed their basic and AIT is a "veteran" (a term not to be equated with "combat veteran").

So, airmen aren't veterans ever?

 

[Kagnew]

So, airmen aren't veterans ever?

Where did you get that? All branches conduct basic training (or boot camp) and AIT (meaning Advanced Individual Training - not neccesarily Advanced Infantry Training) for the service member's MOS/AFSC/rate.

 

[OEF5]

So, airmen aren't veterans ever?

That's a good one Rookie!

I will say this, and it's a true statement any of the rest of you can try to argue with me all you want.

The Marine Corps has the most loyal and best Esprit De Corps than any other branch. This includes while they are in or when ETS.

I had the pleasure of watching a few old Devil Dogs sing the Marine song Saturday night, I think the oldest was probably 65. Hell I can't sing the Army song...

 

[jd4320t]

I had this conversation with my wife cause she was Nasty Guard, federal training doesn't constitute you being in the Army. Federal Active Duty does. I can't stand hearing how some nasty guard person that never left stateside and only served the one weekend a month and two weeks a year was a Veteran good for you buddy.

Wow.

 

[Rookie]

Where did you get that? All branches conduct basic training (or boot camp) and AIT (meaning Advanced Individual Training - not neccesarily Advanced Infantry Training) for the service member's MOS/AFSC/rate.

Ok, you got me. When I was in the air force it was tech school. Only security police had AIT (advanced infantry training).

I was just giving you a hard time.

 

[Dave Doehrman]

I had the pleasure of watching a few old Devil Dogs sing the Marine song Saturday night, I think the oldest was probably 65. Hell I can't sing the Army song...

Here's the 3rd verse of the Marine Corps Hymn:

If the Army and the Navy
Ever look on Heaven's scenes;
They will find the streets are guarded
By United States Marines.

Doesn't say anything about the Air Force, Coast Guard and National Guard. Where the heck are those guys going ??