Camper Suggestions.

[actaeon277]

I could be wrong, I often am.
But doesn't passenger weight count against the tow rating of the vehicle.
And if you load up the tow vehicle weight.

 

[snapping turtle]

GVWR gross vehicle weight rating should be on the door sticker.

A 5k pound truck with a 7k GVWR gives you 2k for passengers fuel cargo ect and then the tongue weight of the trailer. So if tongue weight is 200 pounds that would leave 1800 for fuel passengers and cargo. As applies to towing as I understand things.

Some states are real sticklers on GVWR and some countries are very picky. I have only seen it brought up in court when an insurance company finds out after an accident. The overweight van was unable to stop because it was over GVWR and the insurance policy does not cover vehicles which are driven over GVWR.

It is a very good idea to weight the vehicle pre build, post build, and towing loaded and unloaded with water and cargo. Almost no one ever does. Some scale do side to side weight also.

 

[actaeon277]

Insurance or not, it's probably a good idea to get those weights.
So you know where you're at.

 

[dnurk]

This is giving me a lot to consider……. So my towing capacity on my Colorado is 7k so even though it “can” pull that it is looking like to tow comfortably I want to be well below that and reduce drag / headwind resistance…. I am really liking that hard sided pop up the trailmanor just not liking the price

Search rvtrader.com and Facebook marketplace. We bought our Trailmanor used and loved it for the years we had it. Just sold it last spring on FB. There are deals to be had and you don’t need new.

 

[Ingomike]

I could be wrong, I often am.
But doesn't passenger weight count against the tow rating of the vehicle.
And if you load up the tow vehicle weight.

It does as does the front axle of a 4x4 decreases tow capacity…

 

[Ingomike]

GVWR gross vehicle weight rating should be on the door sticker.

A 5k pound truck with a 7k GVWR gives you 2k for passengers fuel cargo ect and then the tongue weight of the trailer. So if tongue weight is 200 pounds that would leave 1800 for fuel passengers and cargo. As applies to towing as I understand things.

Some states are real sticklers on GVWR and some countries are very picky. I have only seen it brought up in court when an insurance company finds out after an accident. The overweight van was unable to stop because it was over GVWR and the insurance policy does not cover vehicles which are driven over GVWR.

It is a very good idea to weight the vehicle pre build, post build, and towing loaded and unloaded with water and cargo. Almost no one ever does. Some scale do side to side weight also.

Or one could also look at GCWC gross combined weight capacity. J

 

[Ingomike]

I have only seen it brought up in court when an insurance company finds out after an accident. The overweight van was unable to stop because it was over GVWR and the insurance policy does not cover vehicles which are driven over GVWR.

Could you share details of this happening? I have heard this before but have never seen it actually happen. I would think that state insurance requirements would not allow for this.

 

[snapping turtle]

Could you share details of this happening? I have heard this before but have never seen it actually happen. I would think that state insurance requirements would not allow for this.

Was a work van carrying heavy amount of copper cable and steel unistrut. Insurance covered the damaged car the van struck at an intersection. (Thus the above under the state law) Then the insurance company canceled the companies coverage statewide and sued the company to recover the amount of the claim. I personally was not involved in the details but I did get a new insurance card for my work van.

I believe (story told by the worker who could not stop in time) when the van was towed to the repair shop and the insurance company towed it to a weight station and documented the weight before the items could be removed from the work van.

 

[snapping turtle]

Or one could also look at GCWC gross combined weight capacity. J

The precent of tongue weight would vary from trailer to trailer. Dual axle verses single axle and what you have loaded where ect. Would require a tongue weight gauge to get the accurate tongue weight only for GVWR.

I am not into trailers much but have tied down large equipment to them often like a skid steer ect. Moving stone is so much easier with the correct equipment. Someone else's truck and trailer with them driving.

Small canoes and kayaks, small Jon boats stuff I can basically lift the tongue and move to the truck would be my normal tow. the heaviest I tow would most likely be a zero turn mover or large load of mulch. Your normal utility style trailer on the small size.

Let us know what you decide to do. I am looking around for a good deal but normally I see good ones only when no one is towing much around.

 

[Ingomike]

Came across this. WOW! Surprisingly the insurance company covered the broken frame when RAM warranty would not.

Overloaded Ram 3500 Dually Results in Truck Camper Disaster

Michael Pavel, the proud owner of 2020 Ram 3500 dually and 2020 Eagle Cap 1165, was exploring Mexico's Baja with his wife, when they noticed a loud,

www.truckcamperadventure.com

Insurance Covers $17k Repair to Pavel's Broken Ram 3500 Frame

You've seen the photographs and read the article by now---the Pavel's 2020 Ram 3500 buckled in two with a 2020 Eagle Cap 1165 mounted on back. The

www.truckcamperadventure.com

Broken Ram 3500 Dually Shows a Camper Can Still Overload a Big Truck

This Ram 3500 is awaiting a $17,000 repair job after an enormous slide-in camper snapped its frame.

www.thedrive.com

 

[snapping turtle]

Came across this. WOW! Surprisingly the insurance company covered the broken frame when RAM warranty would not.

Overloaded Ram 3500 Dually Results in Truck Camper Disaster

Michael Pavel, the proud owner of 2020 Ram 3500 dually and 2020 Eagle Cap 1165, was exploring Mexico's Baja with his wife, when they noticed a loud,

www.truckcamperadventure.com

Insurance Covers $17k Repair to Pavel's Broken Ram 3500 Frame

You've seen the photographs and read the article by now---the Pavel's 2020 Ram 3500 buckled in two with a 2020 Eagle Cap 1165 mounted on back. The

www.truckcamperadventure.com

Broken Ram 3500 Dually Shows a Camper Can Still Overload a Big Truck

This Ram 3500 is awaiting a $17,000 repair job after an enormous slide-in camper snapped its frame.

www.thedrive.com

In BaJa and where also. I am definitely in the less is more category but the wife is in the put the house on wheels camp.

Personally I think that rig is ugly.
For a dodge I like this

 

[cg21]

What about an RV ? Not the big bus style….. too many options.

 

[Bugzilla]

I‘m on the

Jayco RV Owners Forum

Jayco Owners is the #1 community for Jayco Trailer owners.

www.jaycoowners.com

I’m sure every brand has a similar site. Note that this is not a Jayco sponsored site. More information to make your head spin. Most confusing seems to be the weight category. Go to any manufacturer site to review all their floor plans with specifications.

 

[cg21]

Found the absolute perfect camper……… except it is on FB and go won’t get back to me he said it is available and hasn’t responded since. Hoping he is gathering his thoughts but he read all the messages and hasn’t responded…………… oh well.

 

[d.kaufman]

Not to hijack the thread but I'm also in the market. @Super Bee what brands should I stay away from? Are any of the Coleman offerings decent? Looking like i can get their 21ft model that meets my needs for around $15k new. Max capacity around 5k pounds to keep it around 85% tow capacity for my vehicle

 

[4sarge]

Found the absolute perfect camper……… except it is on FB and go won’t get back to me he said it is available and hasn’t responded since. Hoping he is gathering his thoughts but he read all the messages and hasn’t responded…………… oh well.

FB Marketplace is a Scammers Delight. So many trailers, cars that are not real is incredulous. Check the sellers profile, cross check to see if they even actually are in the state that the trailer is for sale in. I see a trailer or car photo listed as for sale in multiple states an locations with the alleged owner not even in the same state or area. Good Luck.

 

[Bugzilla]

Found the absolute perfect camper……… except it is on FB and go won’t get back to me he said it is available and hasn’t responded since. Hoping he is gathering his thoughts but he read all the messages and hasn’t responded…………… oh well.

What model did you see? We bought a camper several years ago off of eBay with no issue. But good advice for market place, or any online site, from 4sarge!

 

[Super Bee]

Not to hijack the thread but I'm also in the market. @Super Bee what brands should I stay away from? Are any of the Coleman offerings decent? Looking like i can get their 21ft model that meets my needs for around $15k new. Max capacity around 5k pounds to keep it around 85% tow capacity for my vehicle

PM sent.

 

[cg21]

When I said perfect I meant it…. That isn’t even the cool side but you guys are gonna steal it lol so IF this doesn’t go through……. I will definitely be stealing his ideas since he won’t respond to me.