Carrying in Michigan

[22rssix]

Check out MIgunowners.com

They have a OC and a CC forum. They have tons of threads with good info and links to the laws about these questions.

If you travel to MI this is a good resource.

 

[cedartop]

750.234d Possession of firearm on certain premises prohibited; applicability; violation as
misdemeanor; penalty.
Sec. 234d. (1) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person shall not possess a firearm on the premises of
any of the following:
(a) A depository financial institution or a subsidiary or affiliate of a depository financial institution.
(b) A church or other house of religious worship.
(c) A court.
(d) A theatre.
(e) A sports arena.
(f) A day care center.
(g) A hospital.
(h) An establishment licensed under the Michigan liquor control act, Act No. 8 of the Public Acts of the
Extra Session of 1933, being sections 436.1 to 436.58 of the Michigan Compiled Laws.
(2) This section does not apply to any of the following:
(a) A person who owns, or is employed by or contracted by, an entity described in subsection (1) if the
possession of that firearm is to provide security services for that entity.
(b) A peace officer.
(c) A person licensed by this state or another state to carry a concealed weapon.
(d) A person who possesses a firearm on the premises of an entity described in subsection (1) if that
possession is with the permission of the owner or an agent of the owner of that entity.
(3) A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more
than 90 days or a fine of not more than $100.00, or both

so from the way i understand it, you don't have to oc to be ok in these places you just have to have a ccw/ltch and you can perty much carry as you wish, even in a court. I had never found this before in my searches

If you go to the resource bob links. You will find they just give you pretty much this same list in a different code area and say you can't cc in the places listed. (they are also listed on a MI cpl) Trying to make sense of it, well, I am pretty sure if you open carry in some of these areas, you will find yourself referring to this code in court later.

 

[bobn911]

I'll admit there was a lot of confusion as to what is or what is not legal with or without a permit. This MSP update really cleared it all up. I started going to OC seminars about 2 years ago and had my eyes opened. Some of the OC has been going for years as there really was no law against it. That changed about 10 years ago with a AG opinion. Still no law against it, she just said it was legal. Later, Bob

 

[Timjoebillybob]

so from the way i understand it, you don't have to oc to be ok in these places you just have to have a ccw/ltch and you can perty much carry as you wish, even in a court. I had never found this before in my searches

The law that makes it illegal to conceal in those places is here
Michigan Legislature - Section 28.425o
as I posted in a previous post. The only way to legally carry in those places is openly.

ETA I believe there is another law in MI which prohibits carry in a courtroom either openly or concealed with some exemptions for law officers, judges etc. but I'm not in the mood to look for it at the moment.

 

[SirRealism]

The law that makes it illegal to conceal in those places is here
Michigan Legislature - Section 28.425o
as I posted in a previous post. The only way to legally carry in those places is openly.

ETA I believe there is another law in MI which prohibits carry in a courtroom either openly or concealed with some exemptions for law officers, judges etc. but I'm not in the mood to look for it at the moment.

Wow, I didn't realize MI's laws were so confusing. Check my logic here. Basically, there's a list of places you cannot carry a concealed weapon under any circumstances. But you may carry openly in most of them if you have a permit to carry concealed in other places. Brilliant.

I know I'm just preaching to the choir, but laws just shouldn't be this difficult to understand and follow.

 

[furbymac]

so i am gonna walk out on a limb here and say if you just oc everywhere you will be fine i am confused i say we take a field trip and ask an MI. legislature to clear up all of our questions

 

[bobn911]

That's why when MSP posted the update #86, it really is letting LEO know what it what. There is one mistake in the update that MSP is aware off and that concerns OC in banks, credit unions and federal depositorys. With a CPL, you CAN oc in banks and credit unions. Federal depositorys are off limits either way. Now, to mix things up even more, there is an exemtpion box on the front side of a MI CPL. If it is checked, then a person may CC everywhere except, federal buildings, jails, casinos, and courtrooms.

 

[bobn911]

Cedrartop, and others in northern IN, there will be a OC seminar at the Coloma Rod and Gun club in Coloma, MI on Tuesday, 14. It starts at 7:00pm till about 9:00pm. The guy who putting this is very knowagable knows what he is talking about. It's free and you are more than welcome to attend. I'll have 2 seats available in my car if needed. I will be leaving at 6:00pm sharp. Later, Bob

 

[T-rav]

There is also some good info the state police web site. If Im curious about what to do when visiting a state I just hit up the state police site.

MSP - Firearms

 

[cedartop]

Cedrartop, and others in northern IN, there will be a OC seminar at the Coloma Rod and Gun club in Coloma, MI on Tuesday, 14. It starts at 7:00pm till about 9:00pm. The guy who putting this is very knowagable knows what he is talking about. It's free and you are more than welcome to attend. I'll have 2 seats available in my car if needed. I will be leaving at 6:00pm sharp. Later, Bob

Actually, I live about 5 minutes from Coloma. This is how I know you better not OC at a bank in Benton Harbor. If I am back from my trip to AZ in time, I will try and make the seminar.

 

[bobn911]

Hope to see you there. I'll be wearing a blue USA ballcap. Later, Bob

PS. maybe the cops in Benton Harbour need to attend so they will know what the law says..

 

[cedartop]

Hope to see you there. I'll be wearing a blue USA ballcap. Later, Bob

PS. maybe the cops in Benton Harbour need to attend so they will know what the law says..

Well, I was there, sorry to have missed you Bob, maybe next time.