Dave Ramsey

[JettaKnight]

Dave Ramsey is extremely religious, and advocates tithing (10% of pre tax income donated directly to the church).

To me, that is insane.

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[FearAndLoathing]

I endorse it as well. I guess I'm insane.

Different strokes for different folks. I'm an atheist, so naturally tithing seems like a massive waste of money.

 

[HoughMade]

Different strokes for different folks. I'm an atheist, so naturally tithing seems like a massive waste of money.

No problem. This is hardly the only area in which people have questioned my sanity. In fact, it's probably the most benign.

 

[JettaKnight]

Different strokes for different folks. I'm an atheist, so naturally tithing seems like a massive waste of money.

If I was an atheist, I'd be right there with you... I could have a lot of fun with all that money... so many guns...

If Jesus Christ wasn't God, then Christians are pathetic and foolish.



However, since Jesus Christ is God, then I'm rich beyond all measure.

 

[HoughMade]

If I was an atheist, I'd be right there with you... I could have a lot of fun with all that money... so many guns...

If Jesus Christ wasn't God, then Christians are pathetic and foolish.



However, since Jesus Christ is God, then I'm rich beyond all measure.

You and me both, brother.

 

[seedubs1]

Everyone believes their god is the correct one

However, since Jesus Christ is God, then I'm rich beyond all measure.

 

[HoughMade]

So I guess either someone is right or no one is right. I have a 50-50 chance.

 

[seedubs1]

Someone is right regardless.

What turns me off of all of it is that most people just stick with what their parents taught them. And everyone is completely convinced that whatever they were born into is the right one.

I was born catholic and went to catholic school. The things they believe..... I finally just realized that it was all just a business and that if there was a god, there's no way it would endorse such things.

So here I am.....Agnostic.

So I guess either someone is right or no one is right. I have a 50-50 chance.

 

[lovemachine]

Someone is right regardless.

What turns me off of all of it is that most people just stick with what their parents taught them. And everyone is completely convinced that whatever they were born into is the right one.

I was born catholic and went to catholic school. The things they believe..... I finally just realized that it was all just a business and that if there was a god, there's no way it would endorse such things.

So here I am.....Agnostic.

I was raised Catholic. Was an alter server for years, even trained several.

I quit going to church for a large number of years. Then I was drawn back. I went thru Confirmation 2 years ago. Now, both my sons have been recently baptized.

I love the Catholic Church, even though I don’t agree with most of their teachings.

Anyway, once I pay off my wife’s car, we’ll have just the house. My plan is to up our retirement, our savings, start my boys’ college fund, then start tithing because the Good Lord has been much too kind to me.

 

[HoughMade]

.... I finally just realized that it was all just a business and that if there was a god, there's no way it would endorse such things...

I don't quite know what you mean by that, but generally speaking, our idea of what God would or would not endorse based on anything outside of what He reveals about Himself, including our opinions, is irrelevant.

 

[JettaKnight]

I was raised Catholic. Was an alter server for years, even trained several.

I quit going to church for a large number of years. Then I was drawn back. I went thru Confirmation 2 years ago. Now, both my sons have been recently baptized.

I love the Catholic Church, even though I don’t agree with most of their teachings.

Anyway, once I pay off my wife’s car, we’ll have just the house. My plan is to up our retirement, our savings, start my boys’ college fund, then start tithing because the Good Lord has been much too kind to me.

At the risk of offending, but why are you putting God at the end?

Part of my financial planning has always been to put giving unto the Lord up front, then working with what's left.

I can't really say I've committed my life unto the Lord if I hold my finances under my own control.

 

[lovemachine]

At the risk of offending, but why are you putting God at the end?

Part of my financial planning has always been to put giving unto the Lord up front, then working with what's left.

I can't really say I've committed my life unto the Lord if I hold my finances under my own control.

Oh I’m not. I should have mentioned the 10% tithing. I’m not at the point where that’s in the budget yet. We just give what we can in the collection basket.

 

[JettaKnight]

Oh I’m not. I should have mentioned the 10% tithing. I’m not at the point where that’s in the budget yet. We just give what we can in the collection basket.

There's nothing magical about 10%; But it's decent a rule of thumb.

 

[Trigger Time]

At the risk of offending, but why are you putting God at the end?

Part of my financial planning has always been to put giving unto the Lord up front, then working with what's left.

I can't really say I've committed my life unto the Lord if I hold my finances under my own control.

Yep it is offending and your attitude is exactly why I hate organized religion. Just like in jesus time people want to make a show of their donations to the church and call out those who dont or cant or give less. If someone doesnt feel the need to donate or cant then that is between them and their God. It isn't for any other member of the church to hold over them or call them out on.

 

[HoughMade]

...If someone doesnt feel the need to donate or cant then that is between them and their God. It isn't for any other member of the church to hold over them or call them out on.

I agree with this.

...but let's not pretend that God had nothing to say about the issue. It's not Jetta's idea.

 

[JettaKnight]

Yep it is offending and your attitude is exactly why I hate organized religion. Just like in jesus time people want to make a show of their donations to the church and call out those who dont or cant or give less. If someone doesnt feel the need to donate or cant then that is between them and their God. It isn't for any other member of the church to hold over them or call them out on.

Thank you for jumping in with your opinion of how you think Christians should act.

 

[seedubs1]

Yup.....If you truly believe what the bible says.....you should be sacrificing to give that check to the church.

Personally, I don't agree with organized religion. But I do take issue with "Christians" that pick and choose what portions of the faith they follow.

Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. Leviticus 19:19

I agree with this.

...but let's not pretend that God had nothing to say about the issue. It's not Jetta's idea.

 

[chezuki]

 

[chezuki]

Thank you for jumping in with your opinion of how you think Christians should act.

Which is EXACTLY what you did... under the guise of “not to offend”.

 

[Trigger Time]

Which is EXACTLY what you did... under the guise of “not to offend”.

BINGO