[DGU] The 'Defensive Gun Use' Thread

[ArcadiaGP]

Raleigh police: Brintons Cottage shooting was case of self-defense, homeowner fired at intruders | abc11.com

 

[Mark 1911]

Great idea for a thread.

Here's one that's been around for a while. Shot 6 times in face and neck and still managed to flee. Good argument against mag capacity limits, although not sure if the gun in this story was a semi-auto or a revolver. The "all six shots" makes me think it was likely a revolver.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder_ntm7s/242785523


And still my favorite, a young teen mom in Oklahoma kills one of two intruders to protect her baby after calling 911. The second intruder is charged with the murder of the first.
Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder: 911 Operators Say It's OK to Shoot - ABC News

She later appeared on Dr. Phil, and although totally justified, you can see how totally emotionally devastated she was by the experience:
https://www.drphil.com/shows/1770/

 

[IndyTom]

And still my favorite, a young teen mom in Oklahoma kills one of two intruders to protect her baby after calling 911. The second intruder is charged with the murder of the first.
Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder: 911 Operators Say It's OK to Shoot - ABC News

Not sure if true, but from the comments:

[FONT=&quot]They stalked her for two years, poisoned her kennel of police dogs, murdered her litters of puppies, broke in multiple times while she was off shopping for baby food/diapers.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]She had bred, trained, and sold German Shepard dogs to Law Enforcement agencies, until all dogs were killed by the two scum drug bums.

Terrible people.[/FONT]

 

[ArcadiaGP]

This one's from Indiana, and of course involves a lawsuit.

Hero Who Shot Man Trying To Kill Cop Gets Sued By Criminal's Family

Ohio County, IN – A heroic woman who came to the aid of a police officer under attack has been hit with a lawsuit.

Kystie Jaehnen was hailed as a hero after she saved the life of an Indiana conservation officer who had been overtaken by a drug-fueled assailant. But now she has become the focus of a wrongful death lawsuit, according to an Aurora Police Department (APD) sergeant familiar with the case.

 

[Cameramonkey]

This one's from Indiana, and of course involves a lawsuit.

Hero Who Shot Man Trying To Kill Cop Gets Sued By Criminal's Family

Guy Relford is now representing her. He announced it yesterday.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Guy Relford is now representing her. He announced it yesterday.

Seems like an easy case. I can't really see a situation where anyone takes the side of the attacker's family.

Judge should shame them out of the courtroom.

 

[jagee]

This one's from Indiana, and of course involves a lawsuit.

Hero Who Shot Man Trying To Kill Cop Gets Sued By Criminal's Family

Dang lawyers...they're just money-hungry sonsofbi...wait...

Guy Relford is now representing her. He announced it yesterday.

Nevermind.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Dang desperate slimeball contingency lawyers...they're just money-hungry sonsofbi...wait...



Nevermind.

FIFY

 

[actaeon277]

Seems like an easy case. I can't really see a situation where anyone takes the side of the attacker's family.

Judge should shame them out of the courtroom.

No.
They should pay a fine.

 

[wtburnette]

No.
They should pay a fine.

Strongly agree with this. Only way to stop BS lawsuits like this is to create a penalty when you lose.

 

[actaeon277]

Strongly agree with this. Only way to stop BS lawsuits like this is to create a penalty when you lose.

I don't necessarily agree to a fine "if you lose".
I could have a legitimate complaint and lose.
But, when they sue knowing the law says that they can't, and do anyway... Doesn't Indiana have a law supposed to protect people that lawfully used their gun?


Oh, and part of that fine should be to the lawyers that promulgated it.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Comment on Reddit:

Doesn’t this seem like a reasonable lawsuit? A man died, depending on the circumstances of the altercation she may or may not have used excessive force. Take it to court and let a jury decide seems like a reasonable course of action to me.

What is this, the UK?

Is she expected to try and make a non-lethal shot with the gun?

 

[actaeon277]

Comment on Reddit:



What is this, the UK?

Is she expected to try and make a non-lethal shot with the gun?

That statement is one of the anti-gunner's favorites.
Cause they don't know what they are talking about.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Comment on Reddit:



What is this, the UK?

Is she expected to try and make a non-lethal shot with the gun?

That statement is one of the anti-gunner's favorites.
Cause they don't know what they are talking about.

Yep. The man died because of his own actions. Especially in the act of taking control of the officer's weapon, that's a deadly situation and she was right in doing what she did.

 

[wtburnette]

Oh, and part of that fine should be to the lawyers that promulgated it.

That part is a must.

 

[Alamo]

In other news:

For purposes of this thread does it count as a DGU if a private security guard at a gun store in Houston lights up three guys trying to break in to the store after hours and hits all three?

http://abc13.com/amp/hpd-guard-shoots-3-men-trying-to-break-into-gun-store/3354929/

They drove off but the cops found them crashed about a mile away, all three wounded, one critical.

 

[Alamo]

Well rats. My mouse button doubled.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I don't necessarily agree to a fine "if you lose".
I could have a legitimate complaint and lose.
But, when they sue knowing the law says that they can't, and do anyway... Doesn't Indiana have a law supposed to protect people that lawfully used their gun?


Oh, and part of that fine should be to the lawyers that promulgated it.

Indiana law protects you from criminal penalties, not civil from what I understand.

Comment on Reddit:



What is this, the UK?

Is she expected to try and make a non-lethal shot with the gun?

I didn't see anything about a non-lethal shot, just deadly force could be justified or not.

That statement is one of the anti-gunner's favorites.
Cause they don't know what they are talking about.

Yes shooting to wound is one of their favorite, I didn't see it in that quote though.

Yep. The man died because of his own actions. Especially in the act of taking control of the officer's weapon, that's a deadly situation and she was right in doing what she did.

I didn't see where he took control of the officer's weapon, I did see where a spokesman said he was trying to.

None of the above is saying the lady wasn't justified, I honestly don't really know that much about the case.

 

[actaeon277]

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Yes shooting to wound is one of their favorite, I didn't see it in that quote though.



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It was in the quote that I responded to.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

It was in the quote that I responded to.

Yep GPIA said it, it wasn't in the reddit post that he quoted. Which is what I was referring to. But I see what you meant now.