Did world war 3 just start?

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  • NKBJ

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    I'm thinking the Russians don't want to do anything but have to be ready to respond. Three centuries now and the City of London's great game with Russia is still afoot.
     

    T.Lex

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    I'm thinking the Russians don't want to do anything but have to be ready to respond. Three centuries now and the City of London's great game with Russia is still afoot.
    Do you feel like the Annexation of Crimea was a response to something?
     

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    According to a readout issued by Ukraine's military, [SecDef] Austin promised his counterpart that, "in the event of escalation of Russian aggression, the United States will not leave Ukraine alone."

    I wonder if that translates into, "We have plenty of blankets and mittens to send to your troops."
     

    jsx1043

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    Yeah, it's a thing.

    When the defender of the free world is led by a senile socialist chinese sock puppet it's what you can expect.
    Technically, the Annexation of Crimea was under Obama, but potato/potato. ;)

    This would really just be a continuation of that.

    But yeah, to your point, Putin likely doesn't feel like any ramifications will be very painful.
    I mean, you guys are right on both counts. Just take out the “senile” and it fits.
     

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    I wonder if that translates into, "We have plenty of blankets and mittens to send to your troops."
    I assume Biden will get back to that as our support. Do we know how much actual military equipment Trump gave them?
     

    T.Lex

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    I assume Biden will get back to that as our support. Do we know how much actual military equipment Trump gave them?
    I think it was mostly small arms and support equipment. I don't think it was anything big, but could be wrong.

    It was, however, more than Obama did.

    (Which, in and of itself, ain't saying much.)
     

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    I think it was mostly small arms and support equipment. I don't think it was anything big, but could be wrong.

    It was, however, more than Obama did.

    (Which, in and of itself, ain't saying much.)
    Trump sold them javelin man portable anti-tank missile systems among other things. Not state of the art but close and very lethal
     

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    WW3 is not a matter of if buy when.. why is it not obvious that these treasonous marxists in this country want to make sure we are on the wrong end of history?

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    T.Lex

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    I think so, definitely.
    So I'm curious - and apologies if we've already covered it and I've forgotten - but what do you think the Annexation of Crimea was a response to? :)

    Totally not an aggressive question, and I apologize if it comes across that way.

    I view it more as a matter of Putin understanding that he could get away with it - that there wouldn't be any meaningful penalty for doing it.
     

    NKBJ

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    Hey T. Lex good morning.
    I'll make this a multi-part rambling answer 'cause it's the only way I can think about it.

    The Ukraine is where Russia got Christianity from. It's their holy land. They actually care about it. During "World War Zero", the Crimean War, Russia fought against England and it's alliance of international looters to keep Crimea from being stolen. In other words, as far as the Russians are concerned Crimea is Russian, has been Russian and they're going to fight again if they have to.

    Another aspect of it is that as a long term plan the City of London wants to force Russia to stop resisting the west's version of world government. The encirclement and financial strangling of Russia is their chosen means of accomplishing it. Taking Ukraine from Russia will do a couple of things. First off it takes away Russia's naval access. Second, it tightens the noose around Russia's neck. It takes away revenue, takes away political and military reach, takes away prestige, takes all the ethnic Russians in Crimea.

    Said all that to say this...
    Halford Mackinder popularized the concept of "the world island", the Eurasian land mass that controls the planet's destiny. That concept determined practically the whole course of history in the 20th Century. Geographically Russia is a huge part of the world island. That basically is why the west is trying to strangle it, the City of London seeing Russia as target #1.
    Russia is besieged and in defense mode. They see holding on to Crimea as essential to Russia preventing its own subjugation.

    On a side note, Russia was a signatory to the Treaty of Verona. My thinking is that when Czar Alexandre sent his navy to New York he poked his finger in the eyes of the great houses wanting to carve up North America and end that abominable experiment in self rule. And, that after the Crimean War and then the Russian navy souring their plans here they were sharpening their knives for sure and certain. And that then the west financed the communists to destroy and loot Russia. All of which makes me think about how the Russians must rightfully view London and London's enforcer, Washington DC. You know, there's a term in the lexicon of the west, "Russian paranoia". If I was Russian yeah, I'd probably be a bit paranoid, too.
     

    T.Lex

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    Hey T. Lex good morning.
    I'll make this a multi-part rambling answer 'cause it's the only way I can think about it.
    Good morning to you, too! And sincere thanks for your post. There's alot to cover in it, and I'll likely just leave it alone for awhile. I may bring up parts of it in future conversations, though, not as a "gotcha" but to explore how that perspective plays out in light of modern events.

    Again, thanks, and I'm off for another coffee. :)
     

    NKBJ

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    "Nothing takes your mind off a financial collapse like a good war."
     
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