Do We Even Still Have A Democracy?

[BigRed]

One of the biggest mis-steps in our nation's history was the 17th amendment, which was ripping the guard rails off the cliff edge.

Absolutely

 

[Shadow01]

The Roman Republic became the Roman empire after nearly 500 years of being a republic in 27 bc.
thus began the rule of Roman emperors and the fall of Rome.

Wonder if it was caused by the citizens being unwilling to control the unlawful actions of their representatives?

 

[smokingman]

Wonder if it was caused by the citizens being unwilling to control the unlawful actions of their representatives?

Rome transitioned from a republic to an empire after power shifted away from a representative democracy to a centralized imperial authority, with the emperor holding the most power.

Rome’s Transition from Republic to Empire

Rome transitioned from a republic to an empire after power shifted away from a representative democracy to a centralized imperial authority, with the emperor holding the most power.

education.nationalgeographic.org

The same that is happening to the USA. They even had the unelected bureaucrat class problem.

The creators of the constitution understood the history of the Roman Republic and empire. They knew a powerful central state would eventually lead to the fall of a republic. They tried to limit the power it had.

 

[Ingomike]

Rome transitioned from a republic to an empire after power shifted away from a representative democracy to a centralized imperial authority, with the emperor holding the most power.

Rome’s Transition from Republic to Empire

Rome transitioned from a republic to an empire after power shifted away from a representative democracy to a centralized imperial authority, with the emperor holding the most power.

education.nationalgeographic.org

The same that is happening to the USA. They even had the unelected bureaucrat class problem.

The creators of the constitution understood the history of the Roman Republic and empire. They knew a powerful central state would eventually lead to the fall of a republic. They tried to limit the power it had.

Spot on.

 

[Shadow01]

Rome transitioned from a republic to an empire after power shifted away from a representative democracy to a centralized imperial authority, with the emperor holding the most power.

Rome’s Transition from Republic to Empire

Rome transitioned from a republic to an empire after power shifted away from a representative democracy to a centralized imperial authority, with the emperor holding the most power.

education.nationalgeographic.org

The same that is happening to the USA. They even had the unelected bureaucrat class problem.

The creators of the constitution understood the history of the Roman Republic and empire. They knew a powerful central state would eventually lead to the fall of a republic. They tried to limit the power it had.

And it looks like the founders may have failed.

 

[indyblue]

And it looks like the founders may have failed.

More like We the electorate failed.

All we had to do was follow the Constitution rather than redefine parts of it at will.

 

[smokingman]

More like We the electorate failed.

All we had to do was follow the Constitution rather than redefine parts of it at will.

Two party system with laws protecting their monopoly on power have done a ton of damage.

 

[DragonGunner]

"When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil." -- Thomas Jefferson