Drive past a strange police situation on 65

[churchmouse]

Funny how they like to blend in even though it is described as a deterrent. Seems if they wanted to "deter" they'd be obvious about there presence. . .unless their goal is revenue?

Ya-think.............

 

[DocIndy]

Love the ISP white F-150. It has the clear light bar, Diamond plate tool box, black push bar, and the icing on the cake.... The green "How's my driving" sticker on the tailgate. Usually I see it with semi's pulled over just south of Southport Rd. Gotta watch those trucks in construction zones. I do think the D.O.T. Stickers on the Dodge Rams are just plain wrong... Just like the Harley boys sitting in the shadows under the overpasses or along the wall just over a hill in packs of 3 or 4. That's just shooting fish in a barrel!

 

[Lectric102002]

Bad boys, Bad boys. Whatcha gonna do ?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Most people have no clue about the unmarked cars, let alone the trucks.

The most effective way for them to slow traffic is to cruise the highways doing the speed limit.

I bet everyone who sees the news cast will know.

I will say driving the speed limit in a marked car on 465 is like being the grand marshal of a traffic parade.

 

[drillsgt]

That's one good thing about travelling so much to Michigan, once you hit the border you rarely see a Trooper (they tend to utilize them a little better in the cities where the actual crime is at). They only have two styles of vehicle, bright blue with the bubble or bright blue without, that's the extent of their unmarked cars. Unlike ISP that has trucks, mustangs, chargers etc., in as many different colors, the goal isn't to deter speeding but to maximize revenue. This type of underhanded enforcement does nothing for the us vs. them issue.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

What you saw was likely a fashion shoot.

It's a little known fact that LE schedules high fashion shoots on road sides throughout the state.

Here are some Indiana LEOs performing at the last shoot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39YUXIKrOFk

 

[logain]

That's one good thing about travelling so much to Michigan, once you hit the border you rarely see a Trooper (they tend to utilize them a little better in the cities where the actual crime is at). They only have two styles of vehicle, bright blue with the bubble or bright blue without, that's the extent of their unmarked cars. Unlike ISP that has trucks, mustangs, chargers etc., in as many different colors, the goal isn't to deter speeding but to maximize revenue. This type of underhanded enforcement does nothing for the us vs. them issue.

I'm not sure what part of Michigan you travel to, but every time I go up there on 69 and 94 I see more troopers by far than I do in Indiana. They also have several unmarked cars. Three weeks ago I saw a silver charger with a vehicle stopped right after the border on the way up and the way down. Also, from what I've been able to find out the vast majority, 98%, of money from tickets goes to the courts.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

I will say driving the speed limit in a marked car on 465 is like being the grand marshal of a traffic parade.

You monster!

 

[KLB]

I bet everyone who sees the news cast will know.

I will say driving the speed limit in a marked car on 465 is like being the grand marshal of a traffic parade.

I think you give people too much credit.

Some won't pay attention because it is not very interesting, like some celebrity getting filmed drunk. Some will forget five minutes after seeing it. In a week most will have forgotten all about it.

Grand Marshall BBI. Do you sit and wave at the crowd behind you?

 

[Ford Truck]

Funny how they like to blend in even though it is described as a deterrent. Seems if they wanted to "deter" they'd be obvious about there presence. . .unless their goal is revenue?

Surely you don't REALLY believe that. How could something like that be?

 

[Brandon]

I haven't seen many police cars going 55mph on 465. THe last time I recall seeing this happen was the State Police was escorting a large load on a long semi with like 100 axles.
Can't say the police cars I have seen were going faster then the flow of traffic though either.

But back on topic, last week on the north side of 465 I swear I saw a black Toyota Camry with red/blue lights in the rear window.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I think you give people too much credit.

Some won't pay attention because it is not very interesting, like some celebrity getting filmed drunk. Some will forget five minutes after seeing it. In a week most will have forgotten all about it.

Grand Marshall BBI. Do you sit and wave at the crowd behind you?

It actually made me nervous. It's so weird to have almost no one in front of you and a string of cars behind you. I hated driving on the interstate when I was in a marked car. These days I'm in an unmarked, although its obviously a police car, internal lights, police license plate, spot light, that sort of thing. People come flying up on me, realize its a police car, and then slow way down. The more adventurous will ease past me, get what they consider far enough ahead of me, and then speed back up and take off again.

 

[Alamo]

It actually made me nervous. It's so weird to have almost no one in front of you and a string of cars behind you. I hated driving on the interstate when I was in a marked car. ....

Heh. Awhile back on an interstate I came up on a line of cars behind a very obviously marked state patrol car. The trooper was doing 5 under the speed limit and so was everyone else. I doublechecked the speed limit sign and the actual speed - yup, 5 under. So I flipped on the blinker and cruised past everybody while they watched to see what happened. Got well ahead of the trooper, signaled, returned to lane -- no reaction from the cop. That really uncorked the pressure -- I looked in the rear view mirror and everybody pretty much simultaneously moved into the left hand lane. The trooper probably got whiplash looking at all the cars going by.

On the tangential thread topic of Michigan and troopers and speed limits, this should expand some minds:

In his capacity as the former head of the MSP’s Traffic Services Section it was Lt. Gary Megge’s job to eliminate speed traps set up by local municipalities. A few years ago Megge told the Detroit News, “I’ve spent eight years in traffic services, and I was a crash reconstructionist for five years before that, so I’ve seen my share of fatal wrecks, and I can tell you: Deaths are not caused by speeding. They’re caused by drinking, drugs and inattentiveness. The old adage that speed kills just isn’t realistic. The safest speed is the speed that is correct for that roadway at a given time. A lot of speed limits are set artificially low.”
The state police were one of the groups who backed, against the lobbying of municipalities, a change in Michigan law that required speed limits to be set based on actual traffic data and engineering studies.

Lots more good stuff on setting speed limits in general and Michigan in particular at the link: Michigan State Police Say Most Speed Limits are Too Low | The Truth About Cars

 

[KLB]

It actually made me nervous. It's so weird to have almost no one in front of you and a string of cars behind you. I hated driving on the interstate when I was in a marked car. These days I'm in an unmarked, although its obviously a police car, internal lights, police license plate, spot light, that sort of thing. People come flying up on me, realize its a police car, and then slow way down. The more adventurous will ease past me, get what they consider far enough ahead of me, and then speed back up and take off again.

Have you been up here spying on me driving?

 

[88GT]

I bet everyone who sees the news cast will know.

Which isn't saying much.

I will say driving the speed limit in a marked car on 465 is like being the grand marshal of a traffic parade.

I hate those ****ers. (Oops, I think I just admitted to some cop-hating.)

I haven't seen many police cars going 55mph on 465. THe last time I recall seeing this happen was the State Police was escorting a large load on a long semi with like 100 axles.
Can't say the police cars I have seen were going faster then the flow of traffic though either.

They can't ever just go with the flow. They set the flow. They're either doing less than typical and it stacks up behind them, or they are faster and moving beyond everybody in the left lane. There's never a point where a marked LEO is cruising in the middle lane and traffic in the left drives like he wasn't there.

It actually made me nervous. It's so weird to have almost no one in front of you and a string of cars behind you. I hated driving on the interstate when I was in a marked car. These days I'm in an unmarked, although its obviously a police car, internal lights, police license plate, spot light, that sort of thing. People come flying up on me, realize its a police car, and then slow way down. The more adventurous will ease past me, get what they consider far enough ahead of me, and then speed back up and take off again.

You should have waved. (We need an INGO hand sign.)

My brother-in-law did this on I-80 once travelling from Omaha to Detroit. Some state trooper was holding everybody at speed limit (and if you've ever traveled I-80 you know how slow that really is for normal traffic speeds). He decides to pass and promptly gets pulled over. When asked what he was thinking when he did that, he said, "Well, you'd either let me by and I would haven't to be the dumb schmuck caught behind you, or you'd stop me and traffic could get moving again." He got the ticket.

 

[drillsgt]

I'm not sure what part of Michigan you travel to, but every time I go up there on 69 and 94 I see more troopers by far than I do in Indiana. They also have several unmarked cars. Three weeks ago I saw a silver charger with a vehicle stopped right after the border on the way up and the way down. Also, from what I've been able to find out the vast majority, 98%, of money from tickets goes to the courts.

I travel up and down two or three times a month now up 69 and 94 and 96 and rarely see any coverage. Never seen a silver charger or any type of unmarked in use, not by MSP anyway. There should be even less now since Flint's laying off Officers and replacing them with more MSP coverage.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

Funny how they like to blend in even though it is described as a deterrent. Seems if they wanted to "deter" they'd be obvious about there presence. . .unless their goal is revenue?

Another thought: the ones I've seen clocking people in work zones are AFTER the zone in respect to traffic direction. Rather than slowing people down preemptively, they are merely ticketing those who have already spotted through the entire zone endangering the workers for the sake of an expensive fine.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Another thought: the ones I've seen clocking people in work zones are AFTER the zone in respect to traffic direction. Rather than slowing people down preemptively, they are merely ticketing those who have already spotted through the entire zone endangering the workers for the sake of an expensive fine.

Where are you going to safely pull over inside of the construction zone?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Where are you going to safely pull over inside of the construction zone?

Sheesh! As long as most construction zones are, that shouldn't, typically be a problem...especially those that are miles long with no apparent sign of life or construction occurring.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

Where are you going to safely pull over inside of the construction zone?

Around here the shoulder is often still free, the speed zone starts well before the actual construction begins and again, isn't the point supposed to be prevention and not a ticket?