Even SF Libtards have limits

[SemperFiUSMC]

Not Cool Say Some About S.F.’s Sit-Lie Law « Liveshots

San Francisco passed a sit-lie law this past election. It prohibits vagrants from sitting on city sidewalks between 7A and 11P. It passed by 53-47%. There is hope for America.

 

[rambone]

Why would this bring you hope?? More laws? More government control? More police state? Curfew in America?

Now you can't even be homeless in America without looking out for cops. Can you feel the freedom? You can lose every last possession in life, and then arrested just for existing. Then taxpayers are on the hook to pay for your living expenses.

What a bogus law. None of its supporters surprise me.

 

[Bill of Rights]

...There is hope for America.

Why would this bring you hope?? More laws? More government control? More police state? Curfew in America?

Now you can't even be homeless in America without looking out for cops. Can you feel the freedom? You can lose every last possession in life, and then arrested just for existing. Then taxpayers are on the hook to pay for your living expenses.

What a bogus law. None of its supporters surprise me.

Rambone... I'm just guessing, but based on other comments SemperFi has written... I would guess the above quote to be sarcasm.

Or in this case, "sarchasm"

Blessings,
Bill

 

[machete]

Not Cool Say Some About S.F.’s Sit-Lie Law « Liveshots

San Francisco passed a sit-lie law this past election. It prohibits vagrants from sitting on city sidewalks between 7A and 11P. It passed by 53-47%. There is hope for America.

Why is this cool??? It seems like,,,every time something comes that,,,hates or hurts someone,,,especially someone less fortunate,,,youre all for it???

 

[thej27]

Liberals only like the downtrodden when they can use them to further their ideology. Any other time they want them to be hidden away so they can live out their "utopia".

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

Rambone... I'm just guessing, but based on other comments SemperFi has written... I would guess the above quote to be sarcasm.

Or in this case, "sarchasm"

Blessings,
Bill

Bill,

I have him on my ignore list. I'm done feeding the trolls. It's bad for my mental health.

Since you asked, my point was that even Libtards have limits on what is acceptable. Since there are limits to what even Libtards are willing to accept and more importantly push for in the way of progressiveness, America has hope.

I don't care if SF wants to allow or disallow crackheads to defecate and urinate on their streets in front of people. Maybe they can all go to what's his name's house and he can feed them all and let them use the bathroom. Buy lots of shampoo and soap. And Prozac and Zoloft.

 

[Phil502]

They have big time problems out west with this kind of thing. it just don't get cold enough out there. People come from all over to hang out and panhandle and all kinds of nasty stuff happens.

 

[rambone]

Bill,

I have him on my ignore list. I'm done feeding the trolls. It's bad for my mental health.

 

[steveh_131]

I know this sounds crazy, but I kind of liked an America where people could do what they wanted as long as they weren't infringing on other's rights to do the same.

Guess I'm old-fashioned. Bring on the police state.

 

[88GT]

I know this sounds crazy, but I kind of liked an America where people could do what they wanted as long as they weren't infringing on other's rights to do the same.

Good God, just how old are you?

 

[rmabrey]

Good God, just how old are you?

my guess is somewhere around 200 years old

 

[Phil502]

I know this sounds crazy, but I kind of liked an America where people could do what they wanted as long as they weren't infringing on other's rights to do the same.

Guess I'm old-fashioned. Bring on the police state.

Like the right to own a business without some guy bugging all your customers or taking a crap in your doorway when it's raining.

 

[steveh_131]

Like the right to own a business without some guy bugging all your customers or taking a crap in your doorway when it's raining.

You know, there is a big difference between allowing someone to simply exist on public property and allowing someone to defecate on your private property.

If you'd like to discuss the legality of someone soliciting your customers or damaging your property then we can do so. That is not what's being discussed here.

 

[rjstew317]

You know, there is a big difference between allowing someone to simply exist on public property and allowing someone to defecate on your private property.

If you'd like to discuss the legality of someone soliciting your customers or damaging your property then we can do so. That is not what's being discussed here.

so how would you propose the correct the situation? i do agree that people shouldn't be punished for simply existing, but i do see the point that it could be bad for a business if they are panhandling in front of it.

 

[henktermaat]

But critics say cracking down on the sidewalk gatherings will alter the neighborhood's unique character, and cause the city to suffer more economically.

"Sidewalk Gatherings???" Cause the city to suffer economically???

Let me translate. If we move the bums off the sidewalk, we'll take in less money.

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

 

[steveh_131]

so how would you propose the correct the situation? i do agree that people shouldn't be punished for simply existing, but i do see the point that it could be bad for a business if they are panhandling in front of it.

Protesting and boycotting can be bad for business too. That doesn't mean we should outlaw it.

We certainly shouldn't allow panhandlers to physically block people from going places or to damage private or public property, I will agree. But their mere existence being bad for business really isn't a justification for this.

 

[rambone]

Instead of a Sit/Lie law, propose a Squat/Poop law.

 

[mrjarrell]

"Sidewalk Gatherings???" Cause the city to suffer economically???

Let me translate. If we move the bums off the sidewalk, we'll take in less money.

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Unfortunately, this law is likely to be applied across the board and will impact more than just panhandlers. When you were a kid, did you ever just sit on the curb and watch traffic go by? That would be illegal. Sit down outside a store to wait for mom or dad? Illegal. Decide to have a 2nd Amendment sit in outside a government office? Illegal. There are always unintended consequences when duh masses speak.

 

[rambone]

Unfortunately, this law is likely to be applied across the board and will impact more than just panhandlers. When you were a kid, did you ever just sit on the curb and watch traffic go by? That would be illegal. Sit down outside a store to wait for mom or dad? Illegal. Decide to have a 2nd Amendment sit in outside a government office? Illegal. There are always unintended consequences when duh masses speak.

Oh don't worry. Police will just use "common sense" to only enforce this terribly broad law on the "bad guys."

 

[Phil502]

You know, there is a big difference between allowing someone to simply exist on public property and allowing someone to defecate on your private property.

If you'd like to discuss the legality of someone soliciting your customers or damaging your property then we can do so. That is not what's being discussed here.

Sure lets discuss it. The bums in that part of the country, at least what I saw in my 2months of living in downtown Portland Oregon were all over the place. I am talking about people in their 20's fully capable of working, constantly bugging you for money, food, cigarettes.

How is the city supposed to survive when these bums ruin it for, travelers, property owners, citizens. I would sooner see those rights protected. This law is designed to do that, yes that is it's purpose, to make it undesirable to hang around all year at these places.

The funny thing is, with all the services that were previously given to these people the problem is compounded, now they want to try to stem it some a little too late though.