I was at the American Suppressor Association shoot the last two years and the most common gun there and the best to shoot each time is the MP5. Hands down. I believe it was in Edinburgh this year. Some small town south of Indy. Nice range.
Well, like many things related to BATF it is up for debate whether this is a vertical grip or not. There is an ATF letter around (I've seen it numerous times on AR15.com) which pretty clearly states if it is 90 degrees to the bore then it is a vertical foregrip. This one is exactly 10 degrees off from 90. Everyone can make their own decision. It can be found here at A3 Tactical.
In my experience the MP5 is hands down the best 9mm suppressor host PCC/subgun. The MPX is pretty gassy, the scorpion and other straight blowbacks are louder, but decent for the money.The MP5 is a better suppressor host (quiet and smooth) but this particular 9mm AK has better controls/ergonomics (last round bolt hold open, AR style bolt and mag release). I don't think many of the AKX-9 were made so it's not something most people would be able to own at this point, however there are other options like the PSA AKV-9 (which I have) and the the KP-9 and KR-9 from Kalashnikov USA. I like AK's so these are appealing to me.
Speaking of AK's, I have a Dead Air Wolverine in jail so I can suppress several AKs once I have it. Not sure how that will work out, but I see reports of pretty good results when an adjustable gas piston is used.
Are the MP5 hosts all they are hyped up to be? Is the delayed blowback really that much more quiet?
Its amazing what a couple hundred FPS will do/the sonic boom will do.
I was finally able to get my 22lr can out to the range with a bolt gun. Cci sv was unpleasant suppressed due to sonic boom, but 750 fps cci quiet was rediculous. Quieter than a nail gun.
CCI SV should not have a sonic crack as it's rated at 1070fps. I've shot probably 2-3k of CCI SV in the past year suppressed on 16" rifles and have never went super on me. It definitely shouldn't in these hot and humid ambient temps. And my hearing must be getting bad cause SV on a 16" rifle doesn't bother my ears at all. I'm pretty sure SV out a rifle is right at or below 140db. I could be wrong though
Winchester subsonic cycles my firearms much better than CCI SV does, if I can find it for a decent price I buy it, if I can’t CCI SV gets used but I’m prepared to clear at least a few malfunctions.CCI SV is my go to load for subsonic ammo and have shot cases of it and not once has broken the sound barrier. Remington "subsonic" though will 10-15% of the time (least for me) and Aguila Super Extra doesn't work in any of my firearms anymore. It'll stay sub but just won't feed through the mags (outside of 15-22s then it feeds through the mags but light strikes a lot)
CCI SV should not have a sonic crack as it's rated at 1070fps. I've shot probably 2-3k of CCI SV in the past year suppressed on 16" rifles and have never went super on me. It definitely shouldn't in these hot and humid ambient temps. And my hearing must be getting bad cause SV on a 16" rifle doesn't bother my ears at all. I'm pretty sure SV out a rifle is right at or below 140db. I could be wrong though
Holy crap you are right! I just realized I was not shooting CCI SV but rather Federal Champion 22lr 36gr copper plated. I merely brought the CCI SV along but never opened it for some reason. Only the expensive CCI quiet 22.
Has anyone shot CCI SV alongside CCI quiet 22 out of an 18" barrel suppressed? Any differences? If not, then I would be able to save myself 25% of the cost!
For me the quiets aren’t any quieter, and most of the time I’m shooting an autoloader so they’re not for me.You can definitely tell a difference between CCI SV and the Quiet.....in a bolt action. To me though, the juice isn't worth the squeeze for the quiet loads. The SV is just fine