Finding "No Firearms" signs

[The Glockantuan]

Alright,

So I've gathered that generally you do not want to carry to the mall, any government buildings, the airport, and no school properties. Are there any others that are just known places for "no firearms"?

I know that it is my responsibility to not carry into a building/grounds if I see a sign posted. Where should I look for these signs? I haven't ever seen the signs necessarily, except at the City/County building in Fort Wayne. Do not that many places have signs posted (aside from the aforementioned locations) or am I just not looking in the right place?

TIA

Edit: fixed paste issue

 

[Sylvain]

You can carry at the mall, it's not illegal.
And only the "secured part" of the airport is off limit, not the whole airport.
You should know where you can and cannot carry BY LAW.
Gun signs have nothing to do with that, places where it's illegal to carry such as schools may not have any "no gun" sign.And places with a sign may not me off limit, like stores or restaurants.
If you decide to carry at the mall even if it's against their policy that doesn't make it illegal, you cannot be charged for illegally carrying a gun there.But since it's a private property you can be asked to leave if you carry a gun, and if you dont leave you can be charged with criminal tresspass.

 

[canav844]

Hmmm this question sounds familiar, almost even, Frequently Asked.....
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...16185-ingunowners_faqs_sticky.html#post187168

A more specific list of where you can NOT carry:

• k-12 schools, property used for school functions
• school buses
• Head Start
• preschools
• private schools
• riverboat casinos
• airport sterile areas
• shipping ports
• State fairgrounds during State Fair
• Post office (questionable, as it may not actually be Federal property)
• Where prohibited by local ordinance, on gov't property

(Of note, as of July 1, 2011, those local ordinances are mostly voided. You can be prohibited from carrying in any building with a courtroom and no residential or business tenants. You cannot be prohibited from carrying in a state, county, or city government building unless it either has a courtroom or is school property, as long as you have your LTCH.
Some of these are not mandated by state statute, but are delegated. For example, there is no actual law prohibiting carry on riverboat casinos. However, there are laws delegating the authority to the Indiana Gaming Commission to define their own administrative rules. The IGC has significant "teeth" to enforce their administrative rules, including providing for criminal prosecution.

 

[minuteman32]

I am assuming that since the State Capitol has the IN Supreme Court, it is still off limits. I would also gather that the State Office building west of the Capitol houses "hearings" for some legal proceedings, that it would also still be off limits. Correct?

 

[rockhopper46038]

Gah. Spent way too much time crafting a post that could be best summed up as READ THE FAQ's.

 

[youngda9]

It frustrates me so much that there are so many people out there carrying that don't know the laws very much at all. They are neglecting their responsabilities as an armed citizen. The apathy of so many people is quite sad actually.

 

[DarkEyes]

It frustrates me so much that there are so many people out there carrying that don't know the laws very much at all. They are neglecting their responsabilities as an armed citizen. The apathy of so many people is quite sad actually.

Did you know all of these?
Stupid Laws - Indiana

They may or may not be true, I did not bother looking them up.
There are so many laws and they are very difficult for a person of my intelligence to read. Its imposable to know everything you can and can not do legally.
Just Sayin.
And +1 to the OP for asking questions about what is legal and whats not.

 

[Spikedog]

Did you know all of these?
Stupid Laws - Indiana

I always wondered about that smoking monkey thing

 

[The Glockantuan]

Gah. Spent way too much time crafting a post that could be best summed up as READ THE FAQ's.

I did read the FAQ, no where inside it did I find anything about where to look for signs...

It frustrates me so much that there are so many people out there carrying that don't know the laws very much at all. They are neglecting their responsabilities as an armed citizen. The apathy of so many people is quite sad actually.

That, my dear friend, is precisely WHY I started the post. I have read the laws; and figured I was doing my responsibility as an armed citizen to inquire further about something that hasn't been clear to me.

I am aware that it isn't illegal for me to carry at the mall (with my LTCH of course), and that all that they could legally do is ask me to leave the property...However, I was posting this thread to find out if there is a general place I should look whenever I go into a building to see if there are firearms allowed or not allowed by the place. (is there even such a thing, or do you wait until someone comes up to talk to you about it?)

Harp at me all you want for not knowing every detail about all of the Laws...that's why I joined the site, to educate and inform myself as best as I can with the resources this place has to offer. (So far they've been GREAT!)

 

[Dwight]

I usually see " No Weapons " signs posted on or near entry doors of businesses that have policy against carrying guns, etc.

As mentioned, the signs to not carry Do Not hold the weight of law IN INDIANA. Be careful and review other state laws if you visit any of our reciprocal states.

FYI - most hospitals I visit have signs posted.....

 

[canav844]

I am aware that it isn't illegal for me to carry at the mall (with my LTCH of course), and that all that they could legally do is ask me to leave the property...However, I was posting this thread to find out if there is a general place I should look whenever I go into a building to see if there are firearms allowed or not allowed by the place. (is there even such a thing, or do you wait until someone comes up to talk to you about it?)

Well there isn't a place that it's required to be, as there is no anti gun signage law anywhere in the ICs; if they want you to not carry, then most places put it where it is obvious, like on the door in big letters or with a picture, if they want you to not carry but want to have to hassle you over it, like Simon Malls, then the bury it in fine print on a poster at the end of a hallway or on the side on entrance.

If you happen to see it, then great, if not you have no reason whatsoever to be restless over it, as long as it is not a place prohibited by law, which largely is not required to post such regulation, even if they often do.

There isn't a place you should look, because you have no need to look; if it's concealed they should never know and if it's open, even in places that have a policy that allows carrying of a firearm there are employees that don't know what the policy is (especially true with walmart). Then there's also the places like some gun stores that put the sign up to meet an insurance company policy, but have no intention of saying a word to anyone that's open carrying, it's just there to make a paper pusher happy.

What you need to know is the laws, and those can be easily researched here, including reading the rest of the already linked FAQ, it's not a dismissal, it's a point in the direction of answering your original question, and making you go learn it on your own instead of spoon feeding you the answer is going to make it stick with you better so you remember it when you need it.

 

[VERT]

The only place I have ever seen a No Guns Allowed sign was at a Chuck E Cheese. I only happened to see this on the way out. I have found that if a person doesn't take a lot of time to look for signs then they don't generally find them.

 

[The Glockantuan]

I usually see " No Weapons " signs posted on or near entry doors of businesses that have policy against carrying guns, etc.

As mentioned, the signs to not carry the weight of law IN INDIANA. Be careful and review other state laws if you visit any of our reciprocal states.

FYI - most hospitals I visit have signs posted.....

Definitely, I haven't had to cross state lines yet since having; except for Chicago but I'm never risking taking to IL, but I definitely plan on thoroughly researching what I'd be getting myself into by taking it wherever I was taking it. Thanks about the hospitals heads up.

 

[Roadie]

If I am not mistaken, aren't hospitals with a jail ward legally off limits? Can't find the IC..

 

[Hornett]

Glockgantuan,

I look at it from a completely different point of view than you do.
Since a sign posted (at a mall let's say) carries NO weight of law in Indiana.
And there is no specified place for a sign to be located (since it's not mentioned in State law).
Then I feel like the most important thing for me to do is NOT see the signs.
I make a concerted effort not to look for them and if I accidentally see a gun on a sign or the word weapon, I avert my eyes so I do not read the content of said sign.
This way when Paul Blart, Mall Cop, asks me if I know about the policy I can honestly say No.
Didn't you see the sign? No.
There is disagreement among people on the board here, but some think (me) as soon as you admit to SEEING and UNDERSTANDING their stupid sign, you step into a gray area of knowing but not acting on your knowledge.
Of course, if the Mall Cop asks me to leave, I will.

So, you see, I have never seen a No Firearms sign and I never will.
I can't even understand your original question, it's not in my realm of possibilities.
It's kind of like asking your wife to leave the toilet seat up.
You just get a confused look.

 

[IndianaBuckeye]

Glockgantuan,

I look at it from a completely different point of view than you do.
Since a sign posted (at a mall let's say) carries NO weight of law in Indiana.
And there is no specified place for a sign to be located (since it's not mentioned in State law).
Then I feel like the most important thing for me to do is NOT see the signs.
I make a concerted effort not to look for them and if I accidentally see a gun on a sign or the word weapon, I avert my eyes so I do not read the content of said sign.
This way when Paul Blart, Mall Cop, asks me if I know about the policy I can honestly say No.
Didn't you see the sign? No.
There is disagreement among people on the board here, but some think (me) as soon as you admit to SEEING and UNDERSTANDING their stupid sign, you step into a gray area of knowing but not acting on your knowledge.
Of course, if the Mall Cop asks me to leave, I will.

So, you see, I have never seen a No Firearms sign and I never will.
I can't even understand your original question, it's not in my realm of possibilities.
It's kind of like asking your wife to leave the toilet seat up.
You just get a confused look.

I like your logic!!

 

[IndianaBuckeye]

Honestly man... I have only ever seen signs posted at govt buildings and city libraries.
I know that, as long as the place isn't on the "illegal to carry list", the sign can't really make you do anything, but I do hope that they don't start popping up around town.

 

[Hammerhead]

Here's the deal...

There are places (schools, secured parts of airports, some courthouses, jails, riverboat casinos, etc.) that are illegal per the IC if you're carrying.

There are a lot of places that have a "policy" or "rule" or request that you not carry an inanimate object.

The locations in the first group are places that I won't carry as I am a law abiding citizen, even if I don't agree with the restriction.

The locations in the second are places that I will carry when I feel like it because their "policies" and "rules" are a load of crap and I can and will ignore them.

 

[Hammerhead]

Honestly man... I have only ever seen signs posted at govt buildings and city libraries.
I know that, as long as the place isn't on the "illegal to carry list", the sign can't really make you do anything, but I do hope that they don't start popping up around town.

City libraries can't restrict your carry anymore. If you're still seeing those signs, they're breaking the law and you should tell Guy.

 

[Mr Evilwrench]

A building with a court in it. Floating casino. School property*. Post office**. Otherwise, it's private property, and they can word it as a requirement, but it's only a request. If they call you on it, you have to leave; if you refuse, they can charge you with trespassing. You can't be charged criminally with possession in violation of such a policy.

* You may possess on school property IF you are the DRIVER of the car, possess LTCH, are there to drop off or pick up someone, and do NOT leave the vehicle while you're there.

** The law as posted on Post Office property seems to be selectively worded and the prohibition may not be valid. We're waiting for a test case. Wanna be it?