Firearm instructor shoots student during mandatory carry permit class

[Sigblitz]

"I am the only one in this room who is qualified to handle this pistol.....BANG"

[video=youtube_share;am-Qdx6vky0]https://youtu.be/am-Qdx6vky0[/video]

 

[Phase2]

Getting shot in a mandatory class? Wow. And I thought all the Democrat gun control proposals were harsh...

 

[Ark]

How could this happen? He was NRA certified!

 

[printcraft]

EDIT: double tap

(that's what the instructor said!)

 

[printcraft]

"Whatever you do don't point a loaded gun at someone and pull the trigger. Now I'm going to demonstrate what can happen if you don't follow this rule."

Getting shot in a mandatory class? Wow. And I thought all the Democrat gun control proposals were harsh...

It's like cops getting tased or peppersprayed in training... You have to learn the effects first hand to understand it's use...

 

[rosejm]

[FONT=&amp]Even if you can't remember the other rules, what is so difficult about "ALWAYS [STRIKE]treat it like it's loaded[/STRIKE] keep it pointed in a safe direction?"[/FONT]

FIFY

 

[shootersix]

Who can forget this video?

Yup and the idiot paid the price for his being an idiot.

I think we the taxpayer paid the price, I thought I read somewhere that he "the only one in the room qualified" sued the dea (or fbi, whichever alphabet government agency he works(d) for) for pain suffering and humiliation for this video being released to the public

 

[cbhausen]

I’ve posted this on here many times and I will continue to do so...

STOP pretending we can do whatever we want with an “unloaded” gun and make rule number one to keep the gun pointed in a safe direction ALWAYS.

 

[hpclayto]

Maybe there was a medical component to the class.

 

[LCSOSgt11]

Clear violations of rule 1 and rule 3. The individual that did it should have any and all certifications (besides being an absolute danger to all) revoked.

 

[ATM]

No amount of instructor credentials can make one a safe gun handler, it's a choice we make every time we pick up a gun to adhere to safe gun handling practices and mitigate the potential risks or not.

https://gunsafetyrules.nra.org/

Learn them today, teach them tomorrow. Choose wisely.

 

[nonobaddog]

Sure, there are bad students in some classes but shooting them is bad policy.

 

[Markus]

I do not recall anywhere in my "Instructor" training having to do a "trigger pull test"? Perhaps I missed that part?

 

[rhino]

I do not recall anywhere in my "Instructor" training having to do a "trigger pull test"? Perhaps I missed that part?

It's in the optional unit under the title, "Managing Unruly Students."

 

[Pepi]

This sure doesn't help 'WE' smart gun owners

 

[Leonidas]

I don’t mind the mandatory training. You gotta remember most folks aren’t shooters. Just like getting a DL. A safety class can’t hurt. If you are on this site, you probably are a trained shooter. Just remember a ton of folks get a carry permit and have no firearms experience. Now, what instructor you use, that’s a whole different chat!

 

[Sylvain]

I don’t mind the mandatory training. You gotta remember most folks aren’t shooters. Just like getting a DL. A safety class can’t hurt. If you are on this site, you probably are a trained shooter. Just remember a ton of folks get a carry permit and have no firearms experience. Now, what instructor you use, that’s a whole different chat!

I have a problem with the class being mandatory, it's unconstitutional.

I assume people have to pay to take the class and must pass a qualifying exam to get their carry permit.
The government sets the standard for the class (and the price), it's clearly a form of infringement.

What if one day they decide that the class is $5,000 and that to qualify you must hit a one inch target from 50 yards away?

That will keep most people from owning a gun.

They could also decide one day that as a prerequisite for the class you need to take a medical exam (as it is in some countries), to make sure you're not "crazy".
Maybe it could include an eye sight test, keeping even more people from owning a gun.

You can't compare it to getting a DL, owning a firearm is a constitutional right, driving isn't.

Of course people should get training, but when the government decides which kind of mandatory training you need then it becomes dangerous.

And not to mention that usually that mandatory training is crap.Sometimes no training is better than bad training.

"A safety class can't hurt"??? Yes it can, the guy got shot during a safety class! Clearly it can hurt.

The government telling you what training you need in order to exercice your constitutional rights is dangerous.

"shall not be infringed" is pretty clear.

 

[rhino]

I don't know if I am happier that the French dude understand our Constitution or sadder that so many Americans do not.

I have a problem with the class being mandatory, it's unconstitutional.

I assume people have to pay to take the class and must pass a qualifying exam to get their carry permit.
The government sets the standard for the class (and the price), it's clearly a form of infringement.

What if one day they decide that the class is $5,000 and that to qualify you must hit a one inch target from 50 yards away?

That will keep most people from owning a gun.

They could also decide one day that as a prerequisite for the class you need to take a medical exam (as it is in some countries), to make sure you're not "crazy".
Maybe it could include an eye sight test, keeping even more people from owning a gun.

You can't compare it to getting a DL, owning a firearm is a constitutional right, driving isn't.

Of course people should get training, but when the government decides which kind of mandatory training you need then it becomes dangerous.

And not to mention that usually that mandatory training is crap.Sometimes no training is better than bad training.

"A safety class can't hurt"??? Yes it can, the guy got shot during a safety class! Clearly it can hurt.

The government telling you what training you need in order to exercice your constitutional rights is dangerous.

"shall not be infringed" is pretty clear.

 

[Sylvain]

I don't know if I am happier that the French dude understand our Constitution or sadder that so many Americans do not.

It's easier to understand and appreciate the rights you don't have.

 

[Dirtebiker]

Just like getting a DL. A safety class can’t hurt.

UM..... yes it CAN!!!