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    Oct 22, 2011
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    My wife has a friend that lives in Colorado and is frequently homeless. She has an illness that crops up periodically and results in her missing work, the result being that she keeps getting fired from each job she gets. We, along with other friends, send her funds on occasion to help out when she needs it. She really is trying to keep a job, and never had issues like this until she got sick. Here's the kicker, she has literally been told by welfare workers that it is a shame she isn't a drug addict so that they could help her get housing!

    And this is why American government is twisted. Someone said it earlier, follow the money. The government and its capital entities can’t make money off the homeless or the hospice so they turn to people with drug addictions and felony convictions. They can make a lot of cash with problems like this. But they keep pumping that crap out to them with lesser sentences for the dealers, programs, funding. I’m tired of seeing it myself. I work one full time job and two part times, I’m raising a family , staying out of trouble and I am a progressive member of society, what do I get? Higher taxes and less respect.
     

    actaeon277

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    My wife has a friend that lives in Colorado and is frequently homeless. She has an illness that crops up periodically and results in her missing work, the result being that she keeps getting fired from each job she gets. We, along with other friends, send her funds on occasion to help out when she needs it. She really is trying to keep a job, and never had issues like this until she got sick. Here's the kicker, she has literally been told by welfare workers that it is a shame she isn't a drug addict so that they could help her get housing!

    Could she use the Disability Act to keep a job?
     

    churchmouse

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    I know it is, I’ve heard many drug addicts pawn their significant other off for drugs. So let’s give them free stuff so they can sell it or use it as a bargaining chip for drugs.!! There is no bigger Mafia than the government.

    We have made this particular sub-culture into an acceptable thing. They know we will revive them when the go to far. We will feed and house them. They are constantly spouting off they have a sickness. We have completely enabled them.

    This is a choice to start down this going nowhere path. They know full well what they are doing. It is not a sickness at any level. Yes they get hooked but the path to this is one they choose to walk.
     

    churchmouse

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    I have had people offer to buy part of my groceries with their SNAP card in exchange for cash.

    Both the spouse and I have family members that ran the system. Friends/acquaintances of my kids the same thing.
    When I pin their ears back for this **** they drop into...."I have the sickness" for which I want to go full on cave man on them.
    We do not allow these people around us any more.
     

    NHT3

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    I'd be much more in favor of a work to eat program

    A great idea but what do you do if they refuse to work? Some of them have no interest in anything other than the drugs. I know some of you watch Live PD. Last weekend they revived an unresponsive guy with Narcan and came back later in the show and said it was the 3rd time in 6 days that he had been revived with Narcan. I don't think you could run fast enough to give this guy a job. There has to be a point where you give up some individuals and try to salvage the ones that want help.
     

    MrsGungho

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    We haven't had food stamps in Indiana for years. WE have SNAP debit cards now. ​This program is designed to raise the nutritional level of low income households. It enables low-income families to buy nutritious food through Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) cards.[FONT=&amp]


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    and they still pass off their cards to others for cash. When you see someone pull 3 or 4 EBT cards out, look at the name on it before running it and putting in the pin number, you know they have a few to many cards.
     

    phylodog

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    A great idea but what do you do if they refuse to work? Some of them have no interest in anything other than the drugs. I know some of you watch Live PD. Last weekend they revived an unresponsive guy with Narcan and came back later in the show and said it was the 3rd time in 6 days that he had been revived with Narcan. I don't think you could run fast enough to give this guy a job. There has to be a point where you give up some individuals and try to salvage the ones that want help.

    No worky = no eaty. They become a much more temporary problem. It is absolutely a cold and callous way of looking at things but I'm tired of being responsible for the poor decisions of others. People are rewarded for making bad decisions. We are near the point where those of us who choose to work for a living and support ourselves and our families look like idiots for doing so. We are being used and taken advantage of.

    People responsible for putting a roof over their own head and food into their own mouth don't have time to be drug addicts.
     

    actaeon277

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    No worky = no eaty. They become a much more temporary problem. It is absolutely a cold and callous way of looking at things but I'm tired of being responsible for the poor decisions of others. People are rewarded for making bad decisions. We are near the point where those of us who choose to work for a living and support ourselves and our families look like idiots for doing so. We are being used and taken advantage of.

    People responsible for putting a roof over their own head and food into their own mouth don't have time to be drug addicts.

    I've found sometimes people that "can't work", can suddenly work when they're hungry.
     

    JettaKnight

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    Oct 13, 2010
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    Being that I [think I] play Devil's Advocate so well...

    1) Almost all of the opposition in the thread is against EBT / SNAP and not directly tied to the bill at hand - moving the goalpost.
    2) Didn't we have a problem with laws that bar felons from owning firearms? This came up in a thread this month. How is this (ignoring socialism as a whole) different?
    3) (I believe) The benefit pays for the whole family, not just former user/junkie/pusher.
    4) If there's a choice between providing food, or watching this person turn to selling dope, I'll take the former.


    Regardless of all that, I'm no fan of govt handouts.
     
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