Franklin armory introducing Short barrel firearm with stock without stamp

[HoughMade]

Another thought - this is somewhat more tenuous, in a regulatory sense, than the bumpstocks. It seems to me that a revisit to the centerfire/lands-and-grooves question could make this a "rifle" PDQ.

To me, the lands and grooves are the... wait for it... rifling that make a rifle a rifle. That they are straight just means that it is sucky rifling. Has the actual ATF letter been released yet?

Something tells me they are relying on a pretty specific definition of "rifling"...not without precedent:

The term “rifled” is derived from the verb “to rifle,” which means “to cut spiral grooves into the bore of (as a firearm or piece of ordnance).” Webster's Third New International Dictionary 1954 (1986). 8

FN8 The grooves of a rifled bore cause the bullet or projectile to rotate and thus increase the accuracy of the shot.

U.S. v. Meadows, 91 F.3d 851, 856 (7th Cir. 1996), ​emphasis added.

 

[PolishBulldog]

Yeah.

Credit to them for the marketing gimmick. But this is kinda underwhelming

Got that right. Seems like SHOT show always stirs the pot up a bit. However, my hat goes off to the innovators in the market who are willing to take a chance.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Franklin Armory's Reformation Revealed | RECOIL

Whoa. This is really odd.


So it isn't smoothbore, because it has lands and grooves, but they are straight? That's odd.

ETA:
This is a hard pass from me. The article says 3-4 MOA with ordinary ammo. Only good at pistol distances. Maybe a proprietary ammo in the future that will impart spin. (Also noticed the muzzle device is cut to maybe impart a little spin.

This really looks like a novelty now. IMHO.

Remember that guy who said it wasn't the trigger? Who was that again?

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Is it April fools day?

https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/201...eformation-straight-rifling-shoots-footballs/

 

[T.Lex]

Remember that guy who said it wasn't the trigger? Who was that again?

Not me.

But, I wonder if Franklin is now going to benefit from the crowdsourcing of new product ideas!

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

It was only a matter of time...

[video=youtube;_LPKAm0bNsw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LPKAm0bNsw[/video]

 

[T.Lex]

That Hitler bit is hilarious!

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

That Hitler bit is hilarious!

It did make me lol in my office.

 

[Bigtanker]

HiPoint!!! FTW!!!

 

[Ballstater98]

Fitting ending for this thread:

[video=youtube_share;tKdcjJoXeEY]http://youtu.be/tKdcjJoXeEY[/video]

 

[phylodog]

/\/\/\/\/\ Indeed

 

[Ballstater98]

Just ... Listening to the details

[video=youtube_share;TvtBbGYwOHA]http://youtu.be/TvtBbGYwOHA[/video]

 

[freekforge]

Just watched TFBs video on it and man that franklin armory guy needs fired probably the worst industry rep i have ever seen

I like how he said 4 moa at 50 yards then it changed to 5 moa then to 4 or 5 moa. I like them finding ways to troll the ATF but i wont be buying one.

 

[T.Lex]

Ruminating on the 3/4/5 MOA issue. Let's say the average shooter is a 2 MOA shot to begin with. At that point, the actual variance of any given shot is more like 4-6 MOA (and that's being conservative).

Like the Hitler video pointed out, this is a breakthrough in 300 year old technology.

I wonder if it started as a joke by the engineering people. "Hey, wouldn't be hilarious if we made the rifling on this totally straight!"

 

[shootersix]

and you thought 300 blackout ammo was expensive!

 

[PolishBulldog]

Fitting ending for this thread:

[video=youtube_share;tKdcjJoXeEY]http://youtu.be/tKdcjJoXeEY[/video]

Spot on!! Good one

 

[Hookeye]

I think Hastings used to offer shotgun bbls w straight grooves for shot usage...........called Wadlock.
What you guys want to call this new item...................have at it LOL

 

[Romero Zombie]

I think Hastings used to offer shotgun bbls w straight grooves for shot usage...........called Wadlock.
What you guys want to call this new item...................have at it LOL

How about the Walletlock

 

[worddoer]

Apparently according to Mike Searson at RecoilWeb.com........the rifling in your handgun barrel does not impart spin on the bullet! So that makes the Reformation OK...It's just like a handgun!

"Those of us who are rifle shooters know that the system of lands and grooves within a rifle’s barrel make our projectiles faster and more accurate. Longer or heavier bullets crave a faster twist rate for stabilization in flight.
Franklin’s Reformation does not offer this.
Neither does your handgun"

Franklin Armory's Reformation Revealed | RECOIL

Well, I guess all those companies who are putting rifling in their handgun barrels are wasting their money and time.

OR

You are making crap up trying to support a ridiculous idea that steps backward in firearm technology hundreds of years because that company paid a lot of money for a good review.

 

[Alamo]

Too bad it's expensive. Should buy about a million of these (and their clone competitors) and make it a "commonly used" firearm...