HELP!!! 9mm Reloads Are Not Ejecting

[rockhopper46038]

I would've voted "light charge" as well, but I didn't even think about too much bell. I haven't bothered with a taper crimp on my .45acp and 9mm practice rounds though. Something to think about if I ever have that problem.

 

[booey50]

seven grains of powder is a light load???
wow now i know what powder not to use...I usually use like 4.0 grains of titegroup and that is very mild load.

 

[sadclownwp]

I don't know if it is the bell, I barely bell the mouth enough to get the bullet in. I would say that the top of the brass doesn't look like it is sealed around the bullet. But, it takes just as much pounding with a bullet puller to get the bullet out of the rounds I made as it does factory rounds.

I think I will buy a Lee Factory Crimp die just in case though.

 

[turnandshoot4]

I would load a little heavier before you buy anything. See if it works then.

 

[Rob377]

I don't know if it is the bell, I barely bell the mouth enough to get the bullet in. I would say that the top of the brass doesn't look like it is sealed around the bullet. But, it takes just as much pounding with a bullet puller to get the bullet out of the rounds I made as it does factory rounds.

I think I will buy a Lee Factory Crimp die just in case though.

Yeah, that's not a proper crimp. I'd fix that before spending any extra money. If you're just barely belling, then there shouldn't be any space between the bullet and the brass at the lip. If there is, you're belling too much.

7gr. of AA7 shouldn't have any problem cycling that Ruger. It doubt it's so light that it would barely move the slide if you were getting complete combustion.

 

[Leo]

AA#7 is a little on the slow side for your applications. AA#5, TiteGroup, WIN 231 would be better powders. I don't crimp my 9mm at all, I simply close the case mouth enough to make sure it fits in the barrel. If it is .378" to .380" at the case mouth it is plenty. You should not have to depend on a heavy crimp for good reliable ammo in the 9mm. If you have TiteGroup available use that, either way, you need more pressure and velocity to make that slide travel the full stroke.

 

[sloughfoot]

AA#7 is a little on the slow side for your applications. AA#5, TiteGroup, WIN 231 would be better powders. I don't crimp my 9mm at all, I simply close the case mouth enough to make sure it fits in the barrel. If it is .378" to .380" at the case mouth it is plenty. You should not have to depend on a heavy crimp for good reliable ammo in the 9mm. If you have TiteGroup available use that, either way, you need more pressure and velocity to make that slide travel the full stroke.

Again, Leo comes through. +1. Pistols are designed to work with a range of commercial loads. Change that formula and be prepared to start tuning the pistol to accomdate the new load.

If your pistol won't cycle your load, either go to a lighter recoil spring or up the load. Kind of basic stuff. Amount of crimp has little to do with it. A Light taper crimp is all that is needed in 9mm, just enough so it goes into the chamber without dragging.

 

[El Guero]

I load 9mm and the problems i had were crimping and load with the no ejections, test with other guns, make sure you have good crimp and increase the load a bit to see of that work, i am not familiar with accurate 7 so i can not give opinion in the load, but test different formulas until you feel ok and stick with it.

 

[U.S. Patriot]

I have used Titegroup with great sucess for my 9mm loads. I use just enough crimp so that I do not get any bullet set back.

 

[NinnJinn]

any updates sadclownwp?

 

[sadclownwp]

updates tomorrow. I bought a Lee 4 Die set with the factory crimp die, and some Titegroup. gonna try out 3 new loads with the Accurate #7 powder and 2 with tite group(a recipe I got from another INGO member)

I can't wait to try out the new loads. The first is 7.6gr of Accurate #7. The second is 8.0gr or Accurate #7. The third is 8.3gr of Accurate #7

 

[U.S. Patriot]

updates tomorrow. I bought a Lee 4 Die set with the factory crimp die, and some Titegroup. gonna try out 3 new loads with the Accurate #7 powder and 2 with tite group(a recipe I got from another INGO member)

I can't wait to try out the new loads. The first is 7.6gr of Accurate #7. The second is 8.0gr or Accurate #7. The third is 8.3gr of Accurate #7

I'm using Titegroup for my 9mm reloads with great sucess. I have been getting tigther groups compared to factory ammo.

 

[Leo]

You'll know pretty fast if you are over crimping semi auto ammo. You will start getting a lot of failures to fire with light primer hits. There is always a published specification of the proper case mouth diameter. All you have to do is measure it with a dial indicator or a micrometer. Good Luck with the new loads.

 

[sadclownwp]

here are the updates

I made 6 loads

7.6gr Accurate #7 with RCBS 3 die set... 10 rounds
7.6gr Accurate #7 with Lee 4 die set... 10 rounds

8.00gr Accurate #7 with RCBS 3 die set... 10 rounds
8.00gr Accurate #7 with Lee 4 die set... 10 rounds

8.3gr Accurate #7 with RCBS 3 die set... 10 rounds
8.3gr Accurate #7 with Lee 4 die set... 10 rounds

I made 10 rounds of each so I could put 5 rounds through my Ruger P95 and 5 rounds through my M&P9

Here comes the good part.

7.6gr with RCBS dies in the P95... first round FTE, all other rounds perfect
7.6gr with RCBS dies in the M&P9... all rounds perfect
7.6gr with Lee dies in the P95... all rounds perfect
7.6gr with Lee dies in the M&P9... all rounds perfect


8.0gr with RCBS dies in the P95... all rounds perfect
8.0gr with RCBS dies in the M&P9... all rounds perfect
8.0gr with Lee dies in the P95... all rounds perfect
8.0gr with Lee dies in the M&P9... all rounds perfect

8.3gr with RCBS dies in the P95... 1 FTE on the 3rd shot, all others perfect
8.3gr with RCBS dies in the M&P9... All rounds perfect
8.3gr with Lee dies in the P95... All rounds perfect
8.3gr with Lee dies in the M&P9... All rounds perfect

 

[jblomenberg16]

So...looks like the conclusion is...original load was too light?

 

[sadclownwp]

So...looks like the conclusion is...original load was too light?

either to light or the crimp sucked, but I think mainly it was too light.

 

[slow1911s]

either to light or the crimp sucked, but I think mainly it was too light.

You should still consider looking at a faster powder, if for nothing else, the economy. At 8.0 gr of AA#7, you only get 875 rounds per pound of powder. At 4.5 gr of Titegroup (for one), you get 1555 rounds per pound. The other benefit of faster powders is reduced felt recoil.

 

[rimfire_crazed]

You should still consider looking at a faster powder, if for nothing else, the economy. At 8.0 gr of AA#7, you only get 875 rounds per pound of powder. At 4.5 gr of Titegroup (for one), you get 1555 rounds per pound. The other benefit of faster powders is reduced felt recoil.

I've gotta get back into handgun reloading. I'm burning an average of 60 grains per round for an average of 115 rounds/lb after loss for spillage and waste.

 

[sadclownwp]

You should still consider looking at a faster powder, if for nothing else, the economy. At 8.0 gr of AA#7, you only get 875 rounds per pound of powder. At 4.5 gr of Titegroup (for one), you get 1555 rounds per pound. The other benefit of faster powders is reduced felt recoil.

I did just buy a pound of Titegroup at Cabelas the other day. But now I am down to just 300 bullets, so I will be needing more bullets soon.

 

[jblomenberg16]

I did just buy a pound of Titegroup at Cabelas the other day. But now I am down to just 300 bullets, so I will be needing more bullets soon.

I'm a big fan of the Montana Golds for bulk bullets BTW. Might check them out.