Hunter Harassment Question

[M67]

This is the first case of Amish entitlement I've heard of

Pretty soon that amish mafia will come out....

 

[yote hunter]

I put +10 on her total for ya

Thx CM , that's a good Mod .....

 

[ghitch75]

So it turns out the Amish that live behind the property I hunt (family owned) are hurt butt about me shooting one of "their deer" this last season. The buck was at least 1/4 mile on our property, but his primary bedding area was across a fence on the Amish side. Because of this, they have declared that I was some how in the wrong. Anyways, word is that one of them wants to get the rest of the Amish families together to build a rather tall fence to keep deer from crossing their property border. This has and is going to fail miserably, just as their attempt to swindle hunting rights from my family. Anyways, I'm more concerned that they are going to just use something more petty like coyote urine or similar products along the 1/2 mile property line. Does this classify as hunter harassment? Just wondering...

Oh, and to add to the hilarity, one of the Amish decided to say that he passed up the buck below to shoot a doe that morning. (Complete lies as the buck was traveling from a completely different direction.. but still..)

i didn't see a tag in it's ear showing it's there's??????.......i would tell them to pound sand!!!!!

 

[churchmouse]

Thx CM , that's a good Mod .....

 

[308jake]

Reminds me of a joke. Why are Amish women never satisfied? They need two Mennonite.

 

[SSGSAD]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mom45 again........... I hate this RULE !!!!!!!

Got her for Ya!!!!!

 

[cce1302]

Wait until they realize that their massive fence will keep your deer on your side of the fence.

 

[maxmayhem]

sound like morons to me....just ignore 'em

 

[Bfish]

Wait until they realize that their massive fence will keep your deer on your side of the fence.

This is what I was coming to comment! I think this will help them to think about putting up a fence or throwing anything out to deter them from your property line, it works both ways... Nice buck btw by the time they get that big and larger you don't see them in shooting hours very often.

Also how did they know you shot the deer? I feel like depending on who you told/showed they wound't have any way of knowing...

 

[devious169]

Let the Amish put up a bigger fence, wait till your family's trees grow into it and trim the fence out of the trees way ...... bolt cutters work really well on angry Amish fences! Btw. Nice buck. I'd mount it to the hood of my truck and make sure to drive by " their " property and show em "their" buck!

 

[1DOWN4UP]

© Indiana Farm Bureau Inc.
Revised December 2012 Indiana Fence Law
Chapter 23
What is a Fence?
Fences in Indiana must be sufficiently tight and strong to hold hogs, sheep, cattle,
mules and horses regardless of whether either landowner has any of these animals.
The fence must be at least four (4) feet high for wire, pickets, or boards and four and
one-half (4 1/2) feet high for a rail fence. Worm rail fences must be at least five (5)
feet high. If the trustee is the one having the fence built he is required to use materials
that are the most commonly used by the farmers of that community. IC 32-26-9-3.
On the other hand, any fence or structure in the nature of a fence that is unnecessarily
higher than six (6) feet high, and is maliciously erected or maintained for the purpose
of annoying the owners or occupants of the adjoining property, will be deemed a
nuisance. IC 32-26-10-1.
If the fence is deemed to be a nuisance, then the complaining landowner may recover
damages and also get an abatement of the nuisance. IC 32-26-10-2
The Indiana Court of Appeals held in 1992 that when the fence is less than six (6)
feet high, no matter how unsightly the fence may be, it would not be considered a
nuisance under IC 32-26-10-1. Wernke v. Halas (1992).

 

[oldpink]

[...]On the other hand, any fence or structure in the nature of a fence that is unnecessarily
higher than six (6) feet high, and is maliciously erected or maintained for the purpose
of annoying the owners or occupants of the adjoining property, will be deemed a
nuisance. IC 32-26-10-1.
If the fence is deemed to be a nuisance, then the complaining landowner may recover
damages and also get an abatement of the nuisance. IC 32-26-10-2
The Indiana Court of Appeals held in 1992 that when the fence is less than six (6)
feet high, no matter how unsightly the fence may be, it would not be considered a
nuisance under IC 32-26-10-1. Wernke v. Halas (1992).

Good catch!

 

[pathfinder317]

Talk to a conservation officer, he will explain to them they do not own the deer, the state of Indiana owns the deer, and if there are violations of hunter harassment the conservation officer will be more than happy to address that too. Don't argue with them they will never be convinced they are wrong. My friend shot and killed a Amish Pig that was in his woods and butchered it too , then several days later the Amish came by wanting the meat, all of it. For a payback they had one of their friends who drives run over his dog and killed it. Just do your self a favor get the conservation officer out there, and end the problem before it escalates.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Huh...and I thought that Amish were supposed to be rather non-confrontational.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

This is the first case of Amish entitlement I've heard of

These are difficult issues. One thing I have learned about Amish in my travels is that every little cluster of them is a different entity unto itself including variations in their rules and general attitude. It seems to work out to taking 5 different Amish communities and getting 6 different answers to each question.

I suppose that this stands in evidence that each group of people contains individuals who, well, aren't such good neighbors.

 

[Zoub]

Karl laughed thinking they were kidding, then he realized they were serious, and laughed harder.

I like Karl. I like him a lot, so by extension I now like you. Karl is the Fonzi of this thread.


As for the Amish, I never buy anything that has the word Amish in its title or description, that's a marketing ploy even the Amish exploit. Doing business with an honest person who happens to be Amish, that's good business. A neighbor is just that, a neighbor. His faith gains or loses him nothing with me, I will judge him by his actions. If he is hostile over deer, he gets the "Full Karl" treatment.

I also like bwframe's stupid smile technique but he has spent decades perfecting it, it's a skill.

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

I'd just make it a point to wave and smile every time I saw them. In a genuinely friendly manner. One man who thinks that was "his deer" does not an entire community make. And I'll bet some of his peers have commented on this attitude. Regardless, that's about as much our business as your deer is his.

 

[bradmedic04]

OP, you gotta grow that beard out if you want them to show some respect.

Side note, I'm mystified every time I see Amish in Cabela's. Saw one texting the other day, and I think they took the bus. I don't quite understand the rules.

 

[IndyDave1776]

OP, you gotta grow that beard out if you want them to show some respect.

Side note, I'm mystified every time I see Amish in Cabela's. Saw one texting the other day, and I think they took the bus. I don't quite understand the rules.

At a glance, their rules don't seem to make much sense. Having had this conversation with a couple of different Amish, what I walked away with is:

1. Each community has its own web of rules based on crossing each bridge of technology as thy come to it. The final results are generally similar, but not necessarily the same. For example, in some communities, bicycles are permissible and in others they aren't, in which case devices with a central platform where you stand with no mechanism (the thing looks like a bicycle and a skateboard got together in a dark room) are popular, both home made and factory-built. Same thing with rubber tires and some other forms of borderline technology.

2. The rejection of technology is not that they consider 'modern conveniences' to be inherently evil but rather that living without them builds character and living in a simple manner helps them to avoid losing their way in life. Consequently, it is widely accepted to make use of modern conveniences like transportation (and they usually pay generously for the privilege) but not accepted to own or operate such things themselves. As for telephones, depending on how strict that community and the given individual are, it is often accepted to have a phone for business purposes but not for personal use. As nonsensical as this may seem to most of us, it goes back to the issue that tools used for work are generally not so likely to lead a person astray from the character of the simple life as those used for more arbitrary reasons. I suppose that you could think of it as being similar with the Catholic tradition of posting a crucifix in every bedroom in the house.

 

[oldpink]

Just as a personal side note, when I was still a young lad, when my folks took my brothers and me to the Warsaw area (can't remember the exact reason for the trip now), and we visited with an Amish fellow who was a carpenter.
He took us into his shop, which I was surprised to see had several power tools, one of which I do remember was a circular saw.
My dad politely asked how it was that he had power tools, and the guy just grinned widely and said that the power tools were powered directly by compressed air.
No, I'm not joking.