In our experiences, nothing crashes like a Trane...also this climate is not what heat pumps were designed for. New used house is gas...so we installed a brand new American Standard forced air gas furnace and an American Standard central AC unit...less than $6000. Will never own another heat pump in this area again...they saved fuel by just burning money.
-
Be sure to read this post! Beware of scammers. https://www.indianagunowners.com/threads/classifieds-new-online-payment-guidelines-rules-paypal-venmo-zelle-etc.511734/
HVAC Question....Trane Dealers?
- Thread starter CHCRandy
- Start date
The #1 community for Gun Owners in Indiana
Member Benefits:
Fewer Ads! Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership Discuss anti-gun legislation Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses Discover free outdoor shooting areas View up to date on firearm-related events Share photos & video with other members ...and so much more!
Member Benefits:
If memory serves, it’s pretty literal. Something like, it takes 12,000 btu to melt one ton of ice. Same way it takes 1 btu to raise 1lb of water 1 degree. We could never understand why they were called british thermal units when all of the other measurements were standard: pounds, tons, degrees in Fahrenheit. We called them ATU’s in our class. American Thermal Units.
Yup. Now that info comes back up on the brain hard drive. Been way to long.
Boy.... rough crowd in here. I will keep my 20 SEER Bosch and high efficiency gas furnace. Best of both world. Mitsubishi inverter compressor is stupid quiet and next to nothing for energy use. REMC cut me a $750 rebate check and the Co-Op doesn’t come fill my LP tank every month. Win- win.
20 seer is insane.
i'll stick with my condensing boiler and in-floor radiant....80 bucks a month in LP....
ChristianPatriot
Grandmaster
Hold on to those savings. You’re gonna need all that money when (not if) those really expensive parts break.
It still Has a 10 year parts warranty and when/if it ever dies, i’ll pull it out and drop another one in its place. That’s the benefit of being in the HVAC trade. I didn’t pay retail for it. They are surprisingly affordable compared to the high seer equipment from the big brands.
20 SEER is up there, but not at the top yet. I went Bosch due to the standard 24 volt controls.
20 SEER is up there, but not at the top yet. I went Bosch due to the standard 24 volt controls.
yes that is why i did in-floor when i built my house.....boiler has 15 year heat exchanger 5 years everything else...
This. The Bosch is so far below the big names that if it only lasts 10 years your still ahead. Doc fixed us up with the 18.5 seer 5 ton unit before the cooling season last year. Paired with a two stage blower it kept the house dry during the more mild temps with enough capacity to handle the extremes as well. We already had NG heat so I let the heat pump do its thing down to about 35 before switching over. The lower temps (100 ish degrees) are nice when it isn't freezing out and once it gets cold enough the gas does its thing. It was still putting out 100 degree heat at 30 but I heard it defrosting more often so I adjusted the changeover up. We weren't really chasing savings, our goal was comfort. As such utility costs stayed about the same as the 3 ton unit it replaced.
ChristianPatriot
Grandmaster
Either one. There are thermostats with remote outdoor air temp sensors that will perform switchover for you at a programmable setpoint. Or a traditional thermostat you can do it manually whenever you want to by switching to “emergency” heat.
ChristianPatriot
Grandmaster
Give me a mercury stat and 4 wires all day
I fall somewhere in the middle with simple programmables to allow for small setbacks as necessary.
Though both my datacenter and church systems with cloud controls are nice. being able to remotely tweak the stats when the static schedule doesnt match the dynamic event schedule is nice. (and being able to lock the physical stat so nobody goes wild with the settings, burning money to condition an empty space. )
The mercury stat still has the thing you have to set with an ohm meter. It's been so long, I can't remember what it's called.
I fixed a lot of furnaces when I was the lead maintenance tech at a plant. I even went to school for it, was universal certified and electrical certified. After switching sports, I haven't given it another thought. And I didn't have dummy lights.
