I need a small engine mechanic

[Clay Pigeon]

With an aluminum head engine, almost anything is possible on cool down. Could have finally lost that head bolt that was just hanging on, the gasket, dropped a valve seat, etc. Could have run it out of gas and leaned it out that one time too many last time too. We simply don't know.

I wouldn't drag Jay over the coals here for that suggestion. The entire point of trouble shooting is that it's a process and that's one of the only things OP hasn't been able to check. He already did everything that made sense, so it's time to start looking at things that don't make sense, IMHO.

Its as simple as this, its prudent to correctly diagnose a no start correctly with a test light and or a meter and find the bad part or connection. And then go and buy the bad part.
Otherwise one is running blind replacing parts. INGO is full of folks that blindly tell others what is bad without any knowledge of whats really going on.
All theses members that know so much about electricity, but yet can't use a meter or tell someone else to use one.... I'm out...

Good Luck OP....

 

[maxwelhse]

Its as simple as this, its prudent to correctly diagnose a no start correctly with a test light and or a meter and find the bad part or connection. And then go and buy the bad part.
Otherwise one is running blind replacing parts. INGO is full of folks that blindly tell others what is bad without any knowledge of whats really going on.
All theses members that know so much about electricity, but yet can't use a meter or tell someone else to use one.... I'm out...

Good Luck OP....

You may have gotten wires crossed up in the thread, which is easy here, but the guy we were chatting with has spark so all of his tidbits should be electrified. The original guy had a no crank, which is a different deal and your observations there are mostly correct.

In the specific case of the hill you've chosen to climb here, no one told anybody to buy any parts, a compression test was suggested and I feel that's still a reasonable suggestion. I personally told him I suspect a bent push rod, but that doesn't mean go out and buy new push rods because I know that's the problem.

Relax, Francis.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Its as simple as this, its prudent to correctly diagnose a no start correctly with a test light and or a meter and find the bad part or connection. And then go and buy the bad part.
Otherwise one is running blind replacing parts. INGO is full of folks that blindly tell others what is bad without any knowledge of whats really going on.
All theses members that know so much about electricity, but yet can't use a meter or tell someone else to use one.... I'm out...

Good Luck OP....

My post was not to the OP, I even quoted the question posted by EYECARRY. I did offer to fix OP if he would like which yes is more than likely electrical, of which I have plenty of experience.

 

[patience0830]

That too

Yup. Helps if it's on the compression stroke.

 

[Clay Pigeon]

You may have gotten wires crossed up in the thread, which is easy here, but the guy we were chatting with has spark so all of his tidbits should be electrified. The original guy had a no crank, which is a different deal and your observations there are mostly correct.

In the specific case of the hill you've chosen to climb here, no one told anybody to buy any parts, a compression test was suggested and I feel that's still a reasonable suggestion. I personally told him I suspect a bent push rod, but that doesn't mean go out and buy new push rods because I know that's the problem.

Relax, Francis.

I'm not uptight Cletus, I am still with the first post in this thread... Good Luck....

 

[Clay Pigeon]

Yup. Helps if it's on the compression stroke.

You talking about my Pan or Shovels?????

 

[maxwelhse]

I'm not uptight Cletus, I am still with the first post in this thread... Good Luck....

Yeah, we're talking to this guy.

Pretty standard INGO post-creep and I apologize for my role in that, but... it is pretty standard for us to do that around here.

 

[EyeCarry]

I'm done ****ing with this thing. I've replaced the battery, the solenoid and as of today the starter and I can't get it to crank. I don't have the ability to pull start it even if it did have a pull rope and don't have anything I can use to turn it over quick enough to see if it'll run as is. So I need a mechanic who is would be willing to take a look at it for me. Preferably north of Indy, I'll drop it off and pick it up and I'll pay for the repair of course. I hate small engines and they hate me. If it won't run I'll push it into the woods and let it rot.

Aaaaaanyway. I did not mean to hijack this thread. I am curious as to what phylodog has found out and if he is up and running.
As for me, several ideas were posted that I had not thought about. Thanks.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Aaaaaanyway. I did not mean to hijack this thread. I am curious as to what phylodog has found out and if he is up and running.
As for me, several ideas were posted that I had not thought about. Thanks.

Don't worry about it, there is plenty of joker's out there that think they're so special that they can be the only one with the answer.
I also wonder if phylodog found somebody.

 

[churchmouse]

Good Lord guys.

Phylo if you were closer I would sort this out for you in short order. Sorry brother but distance is a killer sometimes.

And to the fella with spark and all. How do you know the carb is actually working. Is the plug wet. If not shoot some starting fluid at it will spinning it over. If it fires then take the carb off, clean it up, clear the jets and give it a go. Make sure the petcock is allowing fuel to flow.

This crap gas we get at the pump tends to eat carbs over a period of time. I know it killed both my chain saws.

 

[indykid]

I sent Phylodog a PM with the address and phone number of a really good small engine mechanic, who happens to live across the street from me. Granted it is a 26 mile drive or so, but if my neighbor can't figure it out, the engine deserves to be buried (environmentally safely) without a marker.

 

[TangoFoxtrot]

First thing I would do is what someone else suggested and that is put a socket and breaker bar on the crank bolt to make sure it is not seized up.

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[BGDave]

Any updates on the mower deck or purse swinging?

 

[churchmouse]

First thing I would do is what someone else suggested and that is put a socket and breaker bar on the crank bolt to make sure it is not seized up.

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He said the started made no noise. No click/clank or growl. Like it is not getting power.

 

[Dirtebiker]

I'm done ****ing with this thing. I've replaced the battery, the solenoid and as of today the starter and I can't get it to crank. I don't have the ability to pull start it even if it did have a pull rope and don't have anything I can use to turn it over quick enough to see if it'll run as is. So I need a mechanic who is would be willing to take a look at it for me. Preferably north of Indy, I'll drop it off and pick it up and I'll pay for the repair of course. I hate small engines and they hate me. If it won't run I'll push it into the woods and let it rot.

That looks exactly like the one I gave my buddy a few years ago. Mind me asking where you got it?

 

[phylodog]

I bought it from an INGO member. It started and ran fine when I bought it, I used it for several hours before I broke a belt and haven't had it started since. I probably disturbed something while taking things apart to replace the belt.

 

[dudley0]

That looks exactly like the one I gave my buddy a few years ago. Mind me asking where you got it?

I bought it used from a guy in Muncie who said it was his brother in laws (I think).

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I bought it from an INGO member. It started and ran fine when I bought it, I used it for several hours before I broke a belt and haven't had it started since. I probably disturbed something while taking things apart to replace the belt.

I got to thinking about this and it makes me wonder if there is some kind of safety switch that keeps it from starting when the blades are engaged. Maybe that switch somehow got into the wrong position while you were replacing the belts and now it "thinks" the blades are engaged even though they're not. Just a guess but I know my mower won't do anything if I try and start it with the blades engaged.

 

[churchmouse]

Holy crap peoples. Can we have 1 fracking thread that does not end up in a pissing match. You guys wear on me you really do.

I build engines. From scratch. And they make insane HP and make go really fast. So the understanding of how these things work is deeply ingrained.
Phylo has an electrical problem. Not sure about the other one as I have tended to get stuck in the stupid. WTAF people.

Sometimes these little engines just get tired and stop. For $135 Harbor freight probably has an engine that will replace it. I have a 5HP Honda off of a pressure washer you can freaking have if it will work for you.

 

[phylodog]

Well it appears my issue has been resolved with the discovery that the month old battery I bought is junk. I took it back so AutoZone could put it on their charger to determine the issue but it wouldn't crank the motor even with jumper cables on the battery. Pulled the battery from my UTV and tried it and it fired right up. You'd think you could rely on a brand new battery to be functional but apparently not.