Il. time limit

[caverjamie]

So, does that mean Indiana residents with a LTCH can transport loaded firearms through Illinois starting tomorrow? I'm not planning on going there until September...well...I'm going "through" there on my way to more interesting places out west. Looks like I won't be unloading, oh yeah!

 

[ryknoll3]

Yes, it does. It doesn't have to be "through" either. If you go there, as long as you lock the firearm in the car or in a locked case in the car when you exit the vehicle, you are OK.

 

[KLB]

Yes, it does. It doesn't have to be "through" either. If you go there, as long as you lock the firearm in the car or in a locked case in the car when you exit the vehicle, you are OK.

Yep. For those of us that drive there for work it is going to be much better

 

[45calibre]

have they stated the penalties for a non resident carrying there without a permit outside of the vehicle?

 

[Icarry2]

FYI, $300 for non-resident plus cost of training..

http://www.ilsheriff.org/images/stories/press/housebill183.pdf


Non-residents will have limited ability to carry in Illinois, and in some cases, may apply for a CCL.

A non-resident able to carry in their home state may carry a concealed firearm in their vehicle while travelling in Illinois.
A non-resident from a state with substantially similar requirements would be eligible for non-resident CCL. Non-resident applicants must submit a fee of $300 ($250 to the ISP Firearm Services Fund, $40 to the Mental Health Reporting Fund, and $10 to the State Crime Laboratory Fund).

So while traveling and in your car your ok from the way I take it, but if you get out you would be in trouble..

TJ

 

[KW730]

Going through Illinois tomorrow morning. It will be nice not to have to unload and stow it in the trunk while passing through.

 

[BravoMike]

FYI, $300 for non-resident plus cost of training..

http://www.ilsheriff.org/images/stories/press/housebill183.pdf


Non-residents will have limited ability to carry in Illinois, and in some cases, may apply for a CCL.

A non-resident able to carry in their home state may carry a concealed firearm in their vehicle while travelling in Illinois.
A non-resident from a state with substantially similar requirements would be eligible for non-resident CCL. Non-resident applicants must submit a fee of $300 ($250 to the ISP Firearm Services Fund, $40 to the Mental Health Reporting Fund, and $10 to the State Crime Laboratory Fund).

So while traveling and in your car your ok from the way I take it, but if you get out you would be in trouble..

TJ

i don't think IN has "substantially" similar requirements per the new law.

 

[Excalibur]

Well this is sorta ok. I can pick up or drop off my parents when I visit them in Chicago but I can at least keep my gun on me until I leave the car.

 

[jedi]

Well this is sorta ok. I can pick up or drop off my parents when I visit them in Chicago but I can at least keep my gun on me until I leave the car.

Hum... not sure on this one since it's Chicago and Cook County.
Not sure if the bill removed the 'home rules' of local .gov or not.

 

[BravoMike]

Hum... not sure on this one since it's Chicago and Cook County.
Not sure if the bill removed the 'home rules' of local .gov or not.

There is state preemption in the law that pertains only to handguns and how they may be carried. So yes, it did remove the home rules, but only when it pertains to handguns and how they are carried.

 

[Mgderf]

So, I'm not actually thinking about obtaining a CCP in Illinois, but a question came to mind.

They say non-residents need to go through 16 hours of safety training. Do you suppose being an NRA firearms instructor would waive any or all of the training prerequisites?

 

[04FXSTS]

NRA courses such as Basic Pistol will count as 8 of the 16 hours as will a DD-214 and other training. The last 8 hours will be Illinois specific and that part has not been sorted out yet. Jim.

 

[jedi]

NRA courses such as Basic Pistol will count as 8 of the 16 hours as will a DD-214 and other training. The last 8 hours will be Illinois specific and that part has not been sorted out yet. Jim.

Does it matter when you took the NRA Basic Pistol course or how old the DD-214 is? For example if you got the NRA certificate back in 2000? Or your DD-214 in say 1976?

 

[KLB]

Well this is sorta ok. I can pick up or drop off my parents when I visit them in Chicago but I can at least keep my gun on me until I leave the car.

Do they own a house and property or live in a condo? You can carry on private property with permission of the owner.

 

[WC Deer Hunter]

Not doubting you but does anyone have a link to the final signed bill to verify this for sure?

Yes, it does. It doesn't have to be "through" either. If you go there, as long as you lock the firearm in the car or in a locked case in the car when you exit the vehicle, you are OK.

 

[sempreobie]

$150 fee for 5 year permit. Expecting 300,000 people in the first wave of applicants. That's 45 million in revenue from something the state resisted.

 

[jedi]

45mil wont help IL. they are over 1B in the whole in pensions alone.
so that 45 m is like .45 cents when you own 1K in debt!

 

[ryknoll3]

Not doubting you but does anyone have a link to the final signed bill to verify this for sure?

Here's the quotation from the enrolled (signed into law) bill:

24		(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from
25		transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in
26		Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her

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1		vehicle and the non-resident:
2		(1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a
3		firearm under federal law;
4		(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the
5		laws of his or her state or territory of residence; and
6		(3) is not in possession of a license under this Act.
7		If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended,
8		he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or
9		locked container within the vehicle in accordance with
10		subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act.

Here is a link to the entire enrolled bill:
HB0183enr 98TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY

 

[ryknoll3]

Does it matter when you took the NRA Basic Pistol course or how old the DD-214 is? For example if you got the NRA certificate back in 2000? Or your DD-214 in say 1976?

It doesn't look like the time-frame matters. However, no courses have been "approved by the Department (ISP)" yet, so we don't know if NRA Basic Pistol will qualify, or any other existing course or training for that matter. I've heard rumor that Hunter's Safety will give you credit as well, and there's just no info at this time to support that. They have 60 days from 7/9 to set up courses and approve existing courses. DD-214 WILL give you 8 hours though. That's in the statute.

Here's the text of the appropriate section:

15		(g) The Department and certified firearms instructor shall
16		recognize up to 8 hours of training already completed toward
17		the 16 hour training requirement under this Section if the
18		training course is approved by the Department and recognized
19		under the laws of another state. Any remaining hours that the
20		applicant completes must at least cover the classroom subject
21		matter of paragraph (4) of subsection (b) of this Section, and
22		the range qualification in subsection (c) of this Section.
23		(h) A person who has qualified to carry a firearm as an
24		active law enforcement officer, a person certified as a
25		firearms instructor by this Act or by the Illinois Law
26		Enforcement Training Standards Board, or a person who has

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1		completed the required training and has been issued a firearm
2		control card by the Department of Financial and Professional
3		Regulation shall be exempt from the requirements of this
4		Section.
5		(i) The Department shall accept 8 hours of training as
6		completed toward the 16 hour training requirement under this
7		Section, if the applicant is an active, retired, or honorably
8		discharged member of the United States Armed Forces.

 

[ryknoll3]

NRA courses such as Basic Pistol will count as 8 of the 16 hours as will a DD-214 and other training. The last 8 hours will be Illinois specific and that part has not been sorted out yet. Jim.

Please don't say yet that specific courses will count. They have to be approved as prior training by Illinois State Police, which hasn't happened yet. I'd hate for someone to sign up for a class thinking they will get part of the required training and end up having that course not be on the approved list.