Indiana Bill Would Allow Industrial Hemp Production Without Federal Permission

[mrjarrell]

Looks like representative Arnold wants to stick a thumb in the feds eye with his bill. Well, good on him! We'll just have to see if his fellow republicans have the nerve to stand up to the feds and, (if it passes both houses) if Pence will sign it. As usual, the feds could cut off funds to get their way, if it should pass and they don't approve. I will be very interested to see how this one progresses. My guess is there will be a deficiency of spines in the statehouse.

Indiana Bill Would Allow Industrial Hemp Production Without Federal Permission | Tenth Amendment Center Blog

 

[phylodog]

I suspect you are correct unfortunately. It'd be nice if the feds and states would just get over it already and legalize the crap in all of its forms. We have much bigger fish to fry.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

My guess is there will be a deficiency of spines in the statehouse.

Why is everything not done a certain way cowardice? Maybe, just maybe, the other monkeys in the cage do not share the same zeal for hemp that others may?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Why is everything not done a certain way cowardice? Maybe, just maybe, the other monkeys in the cage do not share the same zeal for hemp that others may?

If these same people cannot manage to pass legislation to recognize a clearly-stated constitutional right, they are in fact chicken sh*t sons of b***hes and are highly unlikely to tackle anything that might **** off Uncle Sugar.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

If these same people cannot manage to pass legislation to recognize a clearly-stated constitutional right, they are in fact chicken sh*t sons of b***hes and are highly unlikely to tackle anything that might **** off Uncle Sugar.

Perhaps it is a matter of priorities? Not everyone pushes the dope to the top of the list?

Or, perhaps it is the pro-hemp people that are the cowards. The cowardly pro-hemp people do not care enough to lobby to pass their beloved legislation.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Perhaps it is a matter of priorities? Not everyone pushes the dope to the top of the list?

Or, perhaps it is the pro-hemp people that are the cowards. The cowardly pro-hemp people do not care enough to lobby to pass their beloved legislation.

I was referring to 1056. If they can't get something that obvious and constitutionally based to move I sure as hell don't expect them to do anything that comes with real controversy.

 

[SumtnFancy]

Why is everything not done a certain way cowardice? Maybe, just maybe, the other monkeys in the cage do not share the same zeal for hemp that others may?

I am struggling to think of one reason to oppose the commercial growth of the most versatile plant on the planet. Unless you manufacturer a product such as newspaper, rope, twine, canvas, geotextiles, shoes, cloth, cardboard, margarine, cooking oil, oil paint, solvents, lubricants, printing ink, soap, shampoo, lotion, granola, bio fuels, etc, etc, etc...

 

[BogWalker]

Plenty of countries allow hemp fiber production. While it has varied uses, it hasn't exactly been some Earth shattering miracle crop. I'm not opposed to it, but I think it's silly of people to act like it's going to solve all of man's problems. You'll get a different selection of rope at the hardware store and some new fiberglasses. Everything it does something else already does, and often that something else does a better job anyways.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Plenty of countries allow hemp fiber production. While it has varied uses, it hasn't exactly been some Earth shattering miracle crop. I'm not opposed to it, but I think it's silly of people to act like it's going to solve all of man's problems. You'll get a different selection of rope at the hardware store and some new fiberglasses. Everything it does something else already does, and often that something else does a better job anyways.

It wears a lot better than cotton in clothing, especially jeans.

 

[mrjarrell]

Why is everything not done a certain way cowardice? Maybe, just maybe, the other monkeys in the cage do not share the same zeal for hemp that others may?

Perhaps it is a matter of priorities? Not everyone pushes the dope to the top of the list?

Or, perhaps it is the pro-hemp people that are the cowards. The cowardly pro-hemp people do not care enough to lobby to pass their beloved legislation.

The pro-hemp people HAVE been lobbying. For years. We're not talking about cannabis for medicine or recreation, we're talking about industrial hemp. No "dope" involved. This would be a boon for farmers and industry in Indiana, but spineless fed tit suckers will follow their masters wishes, (even when it's Obama's government), regardless of how big an industrial boost it would be. Of course, I could see you arguing against it. Statists gonna state.

 

[Cameramonkey]

The pro-hemp people HAVE been lobbying. For years. We're not talking about cannabis for medicine or recreation, we're talking about industrial hemp. No "dope" involved. This would be a boon for farmers and industry in Indiana, but spineless fed tit suckers will follow their masters wishes, (even when it's Obama's government), regardless of how big an industrial boost it would be. Of course, I could see you arguing against it. Statists gonna state.

THIS! Between special interest groups that would be displaced by this new crop's materials, and the moronic masses that think hemp=pot, shooting it down is easy. Those against can simply lead folks to believe that they are one and the same (or at least not correct someone who makes the incorrect assumption) and the fire extinguishes itself.

 

[Jludo]

What would happen if we just started farming it. Would an attempt to arrest those farmers lead to national attention and forced recognition of the absurdity of the law?
Wishful thinking.

 

[jamil]

If these same people cannot manage to pass legislation to recognize a clearly-stated constitutional right, they are in fact chicken sh*t sons of b***hes and are highly unlikely to tackle anything that might **** off Uncle Sugar.

I doubt they'd need to worry about an out of state mob relentlessly shaming them and threatening to boycott any business that doesn't relent. Opposition to this would come from Republican establishment. Which would consist of back door threats, deals and hand wringing.

 

[jamil]

What would happen if we just started farming it. Would an attempt to arrest those farmers lead to national attention and forced recognition of the absurdity of the law?
Wishful thinking.

It's worked before. Heck, the law doesn't even need to be absurd. All you have to do is convince a horde of unruly millennials to relentlessly mob shame the people who vote "wrong" and it's a done deal.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

No "dope" involved.

Sure, we all believe that. I think if the pro-hemp people were honest about this being a first step to legalization and changing the culture to pro-dope I think they may have more support. However, this stalking horse strategy and the misrepresentations about hemp being some miracle cure for industry/agriculture/hair re-growth is not helping their cause. Heck, a few states have legalized dope and even Illinois has a medical exception now.

Time for the pro-hemp side to stop being cowards.

 

[mrjarrell]

Sure, we all believe that. I think if the pro-hemp people were honest about this being a first step to legalization and changing the culture to pro-dope I think they may have more support. However, this stalking horse strategy and the misrepresentations about hemp being some miracle cure for industry/agriculture/hair re-growth is not helping their cause. Heck, a few states have legalized dope and even Illinois has a medical exception now.

Time for the pro-hemp side to stop being cowards.

Hemp does not equal pot. You're relatively intelligent and should know that, or you're playing games again to make some idiotic point. The medical marijuana/recreational cannabis lobby is not even related to the the industrial hemp issue. As I'm sure you well know. Unfortunately you seem to be stuck in your usual position of equating things that are not equal.

 

[raptrbreth]

I do not claim to be an expert on politics but didn't Kentucky already do this without being taken to task by the Feds?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Hemp =/= pot. You're relatively intelligent and should know that, or you're playing games again to make some idiotic point. The medical marijuana/recreational cannabis lobby is not even related to the the industrial hemp issue. As I'm sure you well know. Unfortunately you seem to be stuck in your usual position of equating things that are not equal.

Just more cowardice. Just come out and say you want the dope legalized.

Heck, if you would lobby and educate, you might get some legitimate movement in the General Assembly.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I do not claim to be an expert on politics but didn't Kentucky already do this without being taken to task by the Feds?

Because of the federal law that was passed in 2014.

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/10/23/great-kentucky-hemp-experiment-381870.html

 

[Woobie]

So we all agree there are no negative consequences to legalizing industrial hemp, is that correct?

I suppose this could be construed as a cowardly move by the pot movement. But what if it is?

But it if you want to see what real cowardice is, I give you Dermody, Bosma, et al. They just kill anything that smacks of controversy or Liberty in committee. No need to vote against it.