Indianapolis PD firearm seizure, no return

[Trigger Time]

All of the Cotteys are related.

I wonder if I can still buy a badge from them?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I wonder if I can still buy a badge from them?

I wouldn't doubt it.

 

[calcot7]

I guess it was good luck with a different central Indiana department or that it was so long ago that the citizenry was treated differently. I had a revolver stolen from my truck along with some cash and a few other items. The thief was apprehended trying to sell my gun to the owner of a gas station. The owner informed the Police of the pending sale after he told the thief to come back the next day when he could have the money. Of course were there to witness the whole transaction and the thief was arrested and found guilty. I was called in to the Police department to identify the revolver approximately three months after it was stolen and allowed to take it with me that day. I hadn't even recorded the seria number of the gun, so all I gave the investigating officer was the brand and a description when I reported it stolen. Times sure have changed. I hope you get your gun back soon.

 

[Notalentbum]

I guess it was good luck with a different central Indiana department or that it was so long ago that the citizenry was treated differently. I had a revolver stolen from my truck along with some cash and a few other items. The thief was apprehended trying to sell my gun to the owner of a gas station. The owner informed the Police of the pending sale after he told the thief to come back the next day when he could have the money. Of course were there to witness the whole transaction and the thief was arrested and found guilty. I was called in to the Police department to identify the revolver approximately three months after it was stolen and allowed to take it with me that day. I hadn't even recorded the seria number of the gun, so all I gave the investigating officer was the brand and a description when I reported it stolen. Times sure have changed. I hope you get your gun back soon.

These days, without the serial number the thief wouldn’t have even been arrested or had the gun taken away claiming it was his gun since you didn’t have definitive proof it was yours.

 

[Trigger Time]

I guess it was good luck with a different central Indiana department or that it was so long ago that the citizenry was treated differently. I had a revolver stolen from my truck along with some cash and a few other items. The thief was apprehended trying to sell my gun to the owner of a gas station. The owner informed the Police of the pending sale after he told the thief to come back the next day when he could have the money. Of course were there to witness the whole transaction and the thief was arrested and found guilty. I was called in to the Police department to identify the revolver approximately three months after it was stolen and allowed to take it with me that day. I hadn't even recorded the seria number of the gun, so all I gave the investigating officer was the brand and a description when I reported it stolen. Times sure have changed. I hope you get your gun back soon.

Growing up the county sheriff was it. We didbt have a police department. Unless something realy bad happened and you knew it because the state police would be there.
We knew a lot of the deputies and even the sherriff. They were part of the community and neighbors.
I know its not as easy for a large department to be like that, and I know that many do have personal neighborly relationships with cops and deputies and troopers that work in their county protecting and serving the community. We have good ones right here on ingo as proof.
But yes I think times have changed. We arent as innocent as we once were. In my lifetime 9/11 changed EVERYTHING. Looking back with today's eyes it's hard to believe how relaxed things were.
And older guys I'm sure can chime in and mention key turning points in their lives that changed the way things were done.
Evil is evolving and so must the good

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

These days, without the serial number the thief wouldn’t have even been arrested or had the gun taken away claiming it was his gun since you didn’t have definitive proof it was yours.

You sure about that?

 

[bwframe]

These days, without the serial number the thief wouldn’t have even been arrested or had the gun taken away claiming it was his gun since you didn’t have definitive proof it was yours.

That brings up another question (maybe for McGrease08?) What do you have to produce to the property room to prove "proof of ownership" when they actually do get around to giving your property back?

Retail purchase receipt?
Picture of the gun/serial number?

 

[MCgrease08]

That brings up another question (maybe for McGrease08?) What do you have to produce to the property room to prove "proof of ownership" when they actually do get around to giving your property back?

Retail purchase receipt?
Picture of the gun/serial number?

Well, for me, the serial number of the gun was in the initial police report when I reported it as stolen.

Once they told me it had been recovered and I was able to start the process to have it returned, I had to provide govt issued ID, a thumb print and they ran an instant background check to confirm I was a proper person.

15 months later they were finally ready to release it to me. That meant another trip down to the city county building (during work hours) where I filled out a release form, showed ID again, and had to submit another thumb print which was visually matched against the first one I had submitted. But they skipped the instant background check that time.

Then I was sent down to the property room where I turned in the signed slip and waited for about 15 minutes when an elderly gentleman retrieved the brown carton sealed with evidence tape.

Then It was another couple of minutes waiting for a MC Sheriff's Deputy to escort me out of the building.

 

[WebSnyper]

Well, for me, the serial number of the gun was in the initial police report when I reported it as stolen.

Once they told me it had been recovered and I was able to start the process to have it returned, I had to provide govt issued ID, a thumb print and they ran an instant background check to confirm I was a proper person.

15 months later they were finally ready to release it to me. That meant another trip down to the city county building (during work hours) where I filled out a release form, showed ID again, and had to submit another thumb print which was visually matched against the first one I had submitted. But they skipped the instant background check that time.

Then I was sent down to the property room where I turned in the signed slip and waited for about 15 minutes when an elderly gentleman retrieved the brown carton sealed with evidence tape.

Then It was another couple of minutes waiting for a MC Sheriff's Deputy to escort me out of the building.

So they did a background check to start the process... but not when they actually turned the gun over to you? Seems kind of screwy. You would have thought if they were going to do one, it would have been just before they returned it. Not that I'm advocating for it, just thinking out loud.

 

[MCgrease08]

So they did a background check to start the process... but not when they actually turned the gun over to you? Seems kind of screwy. You would have thought if they were going to do one, it would have been just before they returned it. Not that I'm advocating for it, just thinking out loud.

Agreed, especially considering the 15 month gap.

I seem to recall them telling me they would do it again at the end of the process, but when they didn't, I didn't push the issue.

 

[WebSnyper]

Agreed, especially considering the 15 month gap.

I seem to recall them telling me they would do it again at the end of the process, but when they didn't, I didn't push the issue.

I don't blame you at all... seems like typical govt interaction.

 

[inav8r]

Agreed, especially considering the 15 month gap.

I seem to recall them telling me they would do it again at the end of the process, but when they didn't, I didn't push the issue.

*phone rings* (from the other end) uhhh, we need you to bring that back down here for another 12 months while we do another background check.

 

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[Hop]

A little bump for good news, bad news.

Good = Thanks to our own Kirk Freeman I got a call from the property room gal just after 2 PM today saying to come get my firearm. Kirk lit a fire under some asses downtown. I asked when can I come get it? Today? The lady who called said "today". OK!

Bad = I finished up some work and headed downtown from the North side, arriving just after 3 PM to learn nobody was in the downstairs ID department to re-finger print me and release my firearm. I was not happy and may have made my displeasure well know in a not so quiet tone of voice.

They are closed on Tuesdays! I will try again Wednesday morning. Stay tuned.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

*drums fingers on desk*

 

[Trigger Time]

A little bump for good news, bad news.

Good = Thanks to our own Kirk Freeman I got a call from the property room gal just after 2 PM today saying to come get my firearm. Kirk lit a fire under some asses downtown. I asked when can I come get it? Today? The lady who called said "today". OK!

Bad = I finished up some work and headed downtown from the North side, arriving just after 3 PM to learn nobody was in the downstairs ID department to re-finger print me and release my firearm. I was not happy and may have made my displeasure well know in a not so quiet tone of voice.

They are closed on Tuesdays! I will try again Wednesday morning. Stay tuned.

Excellent!! Props to Kirk.

 

[MindfulMan]

Excellent!! Props to Kirk.

I concur !

 

[PGRChaplain]

Good Luck Wednesday!!!!!

 

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[Hop]

Success! Gun, mag, ammo all in my possession.

Advised another guy at the counter to get a lawyer too. Dude's brother was in possession of his gun when the brothers house was raided. His brother has already been sentenced so the case is well over.

Grabbing lunch @ Gomez in Farmer's market across the street. Heading to the range later today for function check.

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