Is America Destined to Starve?

[Randall Flagg]

Voice in the Wilderness Blog Archive Is America Destined to Starve? by USARMYGUYRETIRED


A really good read, i myself have seen firsthand what happens in emergencies with mass amounts of people. We went thru 3 hurricanes in the summer of 04 in orlando. People are just not prepared anymore.


Discuss

 

[Eddie]

There is a good description of Stalin's tactic in The Gulag Archipelago II. In the Ukraine, every rural family kept goats. Goats got traded, sold and sometimes slaughtered and eaten. They produced milk to make cheese. In the lean times a man could trade or sell a goat to get the things he needed and in good times he could roast a goat for a celebration. The women even wove rugs from the goat hair that were traded or sold for cash. A man with a few goats and a garden didn't need much from the government.

Stalin declared that the goats were not an efficient use of the people's resources. The goats were rounded up and slaughtered en mass and used to feed the army. The people were given jobs at collective dairy farms. They had to accept the state's allowed ration of food and use their gardens to grow food for the dairy cows. They went from needing nothing from the government to needing everything from their government since the milk produced in the collective dairy farm was the property of the state.

 

[ar15_dude]

Even if you don't buy the conspiracy that .gov is planning to starve us, most would agree that .gov is incapable of supplying food for more than a few that have not prepared to take care of themselves.

Lots of things could cause massive starvation, but perhaps the most dramatic cause is soaring oil prices. Without cheap energy, no cheap food, without cheap food, 7 billion mouths can't be fed.

In spite of this being a gun forum, the most important prep is FOOD: produce it, preserve it, stockpile it.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

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Stalin declared that the goats were not an efficient use of the people's resources. The goats were rounded up and slaughtered en mass and used to feed the army. The people were given jobs at collective dairy farms. They had to accept the state's allowed ration of food and use their gardens to grow food for the dairy cows. They went from needing nothing from the government to needing everything from their government since the milk produced in the collective dairy farm was the property of the state.

Then Stalin allowed 20 million people to starve to death.

 

[irishfan]

There is a good description of Stalin's tactic in The Gulag Archipelago II. In the Ukraine, every rural family kept goats. Goats got traded, sold and sometimes slaughtered and eaten. They produced milk to make cheese. In the lean times a man could trade or sell a goat to get the things he needed and in good times he could roast a goat for a celebration. The women even wove rugs from the goat hair that were traded or sold for cash. A man with a few goats and a garden didn't need much from the government.

Stalin declared that the goats were not an efficient use of the people's resources. The goats were rounded up and slaughtered en mass and used to feed the army. The people were given jobs at collective dairy farms. They had to accept the state's allowed ration of food and use their gardens to grow food for the dairy cows. They went from needing nothing from the government to needing everything from their government since the milk produced in the collective dairy farm was the property of the state.

It is scenarios like this that should open peoples eyes about what a government CAN and WILL do.

 

[Expat]

Well, good thing we have a Dear Leader that loves us and will always take care of us. We will never have to worry about taking care of ourselves as long as we have President Obama to do it for us.

(for the brain dead amongst the group, this should be considered as sarcastic)

 

[6birds]

Voice in the Wilderness Blog Archive Is America Destined to Starve? by USARMYGUYRETIRED


A really good read, i myself have seen firsthand what happens in emergencies with mass amounts of people. We went thru 3 hurricanes in the summer of 04 in orlando. People are just not prepared anymore.


Discuss

No they will die of thirst or medical complications first, waiting for someone else to "take care of them".

 

[Kuting]

In spite of this being a gun forum, the most important prep is FOOD: produce it, preserve it, stockpile it.

I stock up on friends. A little barbecue sauce makes long pork go a long way.

In reality, hands on the farm will help produce more food than we will need. That'll enable us to stock up and possibly even trade to half wits who thought a 4G iPhone or a POS tuner car were more important.

 

[E5RANGER375]

I stock up on friends. A little barbecue sauce makes long pork go a long way.

In reality, hands on the farm will help produce more food than we will need. That'll enable us to stock up and possibly even trade to half wits who thought a 4G iPhone or a POS tuner car were more important.

unless your crops and water sources die or are tainted by radiation.

im not putting stock in any natural sources as my primary.

 

[Expat]

If there is no ability to grow crops or use natural water sources, things will come to a head fairly quickly. You will have the roving gangs scenario playing out and you better have a sizable group of support.

 

[Woodsman]

I think there is good argument to be made for expecting to loose some of your supplies (by one means or another). E5Ranger touched on it. Imagine you have all of these prep's stored up to last for a year. Something happens; flood, fire, theft, abandoned, stolen, whatever. Now what?

OK, you have some seeds. You plant them, they sprout, and then die. You ate stored food to reach this point. Now what?

You have multiple stashes. One takes a hit. Can you live without it?

Everyone has heard of the snowball rolling downhill. Once it gets to moving it picks up speed. I consider this a sort of cascading failure. One thing after another. Another old saying is: when it rains, it pours.

Layers upon layers in varying locations. my ...

 

[Randall Flagg]

Thats right guys, keep prepping.