jimenez arms

[JohnP82]

To the OP: unfortunatly Jimenez does not have a very good reputation. Some have better luck with them than others. I personally do not have any experience firing one of them, but have seen several. Hey, live and learn. You can take it to the range and try it out. It may work or it may jam pretty often. I am not much of a gun snob as far as criticizing guns for cost alone, but I personally would not purchase a Jimenez firearm. It can come in handy for malfunction drills at the range though. You mentioned wanting a Sig, that will serve you well. Good luck with the Jimenez and hope you can get your Sig soon.

 

[the1kidd03]

The root of their problem is that they bought the manufacturing rights to all the old Bryco designs. QUOTE]

"Bryco designs....where does this originate?

 

[Doty]

Jimenez Arms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It says where they originated and I'll be taking it out as soon as I get my gun permit. I'll let you know how it shoots.

 

[shooter521]

"Bryco designs....where does this originate?

Why is it so hard for you to believe that US gunmakers can produce total junk just as easily as Latin American ones?

Based on my experiences over 13 years in the gun biz, I'd sooner bet my life on a Taurus, Rossi or Bersa over a Bryco, Jennings, Lorcin, Davis, Raven or Cobra.

 

[crispy]

FWIW, I bought a new JA-22 for $100. Works fine with CCI mini-mags.

I don't worry about it Ka-Booming in my hand... but I don't carry it either.

I wouldn't hesitate to carry my Argentinian Bersa.

 

[shooter521]

FWIW, I bought a new JA-22 for $100. Works fine with CCI mini-mags.

Oh, so YOU got the good one!

 

[Doty]

I just hope mine doesn't go kaboom. I'm nervous to take it to the range.

 

[the1kidd03]

Why is it so hard for you to believe that US gunmakers can produce total junk just as easily as Latin American ones?

Based on my experiences over 13 years in the gun biz, I'd sooner bet my life on a Taurus, Rossi or Bersa over a Bryco, Jennings, Lorcin, Davis, Raven or Cobra.

You imply/assume 2 things: 1. that I assume all American manufacturers are NOT junk, which I never stated 2. that I don't have relevant/adequate experience in the firearms industry as well, which I assure you is not the case either

My entire point was AS I STATED.....that GENERALLY engineers/technicians in Latin American countries knowledge,training, and skill levels are more often then not (in my experience unanymously) SUB-PAR....that's NOT to say that there are NOT crappy American ones as well, or American companies who don't try to cut corners to better their bottom line...of course this happens.....but given my experience working with engineers from all over the globe...I personally would NOT buy anything from those regions in regards to quality

There are American junk makers as well....nobody EVER stated there wasn't...but at least their engineers behind the designs have more often then not have more adequate education in their fields and/or SOMETIMES experience.....meaning that EITHER way...you're gambling on a cheap firearm...and considering this, I would rather put my money on a crappy American design then a southern country.....Just the same, while German engineers are excellent....Chinese are decent with electronics...but tend to "under-design/build" mechanical devices

On the same note....if it's an American "controlled" company...I would feel much better about it as well.....due to the American's making the decision for the company and they would have a better understanding of what people in this region seek and will spend their money on...so you're a little less likely to get AS CRAPPY of a build

 

[the1kidd03]

that being said....since you say Jiminez is an "American" company...you're probably safe to fire it...so I wouldn't worry so much....if the majority of their weapons WERE NOT safe....they wouldn't be allowed to sell them

whether or not you decide to actually use it for a everday carry pistol...is another decision you'll have to make

 

[Doty]

Not to mention that field stripping the gun seems like striping a car. I tried to look it up but from what i saw, i might be better off not trying to.

 

[Zoub]

I'm not into buying anything remotely mechanical that involves a name ending with "ez"....lol

Don't be a Hata. My Benzez is pretty sweet and the junk in my trunk is Jimenez. Surprisingly I sell most of it to Asian gang memebers.

Que the music:

To the OP, better to ask before you buy. Sounds like you did an uninformed impulse buy of a product known worldwide to be junk. All you had to do was ask first.

When in doubt, toss it out.

 

[Zoub]

Jiminez Arms' plant is located in Nevada, USA.

The root of their problem is that they bought the manufacturing rights to all the old Bryco designs.

We do not carry Jiminez firearms for that reason.

And never do business with a shop that does. If you see them in the case just walk away. That person has compromised their ethics with a rationalization that it is OK to profit from the uneducated by selling them crap.

For me, Hipoints are on the bubble but I can tolerate seeing one or two of their carbines on the wall

 

[jayhawk]

that being said....since you say Jiminez is an "American" company...you're probably safe to fire it...so I wouldn't worry so much....if the majority of their weapons WERE NOT safe....they wouldn't be allowed to sell theme

your logic is...uh...

You realize they moved out of California to Nevada because Nevada doesn't require firearm manufactures to pass safety tests?

It's not like the gun is going to blow up or anything, but it does ship with known flaws.

 

[Zoub]

I asked the guy and he said he never had any returns and it was a good starter. I have a problem with believing things that people tell me.

CLEARLY you do

My Dad would say: Small price paid for a lesson well learned, just don't do it again.

 

[shooter521]

For me, Hipoints are on the bubble but I can tolerate seeing one or two of their carbines on the wall

I tell ya, for all the crap people talk about Hi-Point, we have had very little trouble with their pistols, and basically a zero return rate on their carbines. In that regard, the Bryco/Lorcin/Jennings/Jiminez/Davis/Cobra pistols (and for that matter, Sccy and Phoenix Arms) aren't even in the same universe.

 

[the1kidd03]

your logic is...uh...

You realize they moved out of California to Nevada because Nevada doesn't require firearm manufactures to pass safety tests?

It's not like the gun is going to blow up or anything, but it does ship with known flaws.

my logic comes from engineerin/manufacturing industry....no company will sell a product which is much more likely to harm people (and their business attorney's will not let them either) as well as federal law...this would simply lead to major suits and no more company....."flaws" does not necessarily mean safety concern...and California is KNOWN for their stringent, ridiculous left wing driven regulations on just about EVERYTHING....ESPECIALLY anything to do with the 2nd amendment or businesses....that's why so many companies are coming to IN from CA

 

[Zoub]

I tell ya, for all the crap people talk about Hi-Point, we have had very little trouble with their pistols, and basically a zero return rate on their carbines. In that regard, the Bryco/Lorcin/Jennings/Jiminez/Davis/Cobra pistols (and for that matter, Sccy and Phoenix Arms) aren't even in the same universe.

That is what the guy told Doty too

It is an age thing Mark. You are too young to have been exposed to Hipoint's "legacy" on teh range If they go ten more years at the same level of customer satisfaction they seem to have now and I will be over it. I will never buy it, but I will be over it. It only takes seconds to lose a customer and I never even owned one.

Secondly, anyone who ever worked in manufacturing with pot metal most likely does not want to own a gun made out of it. Something else I will never get over.

I said Hipoint was on the bubble. I HAD to say that becasue I often see a carbine on your shop wall. You jam me up by doing that!

 

[Zoub]

How often do you sell those carbines?

DOTY! There you go again. You don't even know Mark and you are asking for his opinion.

Check out Mark first, then ask him for his opinion. If you ask me what I think about Mark I will tell you, but only if you ask first.

But remember, you don't know me either.

 

[shooter521]

How often do you sell those carbines?

We sell a LOT of both the pistols and carbines; certainly enough that if there were congenital defects, we'd know about it.

It is an age thing Mark. You are too young to have been exposed to Hipoint's "legacy" on teh range

I'll just take you at your word on that one.

 

[the1kidd03]

keep in mind too that the majority of people seeking hipoints....are the inexperienced, "thugs" and "gangbanger" wannabes....who don't want to spend much/can't afford to buy better quality.....a lot of times they here of the price of the hipoint at bradis from places like Don's who overcharges his prices by at least 30%......a lot of these type of "shooters" aren't knowledgeable enough about guns to fire it much for practice or know what conditions exist for it to be crappy quality....they just pass off misfires and such as normal and/or don't take the time to return it to that same store rather than sell it to their criminal friend who can't buy one at a store