Just gotta ask the question

[Sgtusmc]

The Ammo flipping will cease when people stop panicing about buying more. Right now, its merely a waiting game. The wait for people to realize they probably have enough for now and to wait it out. The wait for the ammo flippers to stop buying en masse in thoughts of turning a profit. The wait for the horded supplies to be re-released to the public.

The buying out en-masse of everything was a good sign. What's embarrasing though is the disorganization of the pro 2A movement. People trying to make a buck on the back of those fighting for the containment of liberty. Damn capitalists, thats America I guess?

 

[abrewer15]

.22LR Ammo Ammunition Bullets 525 Rounds Remington : Rifle Ammunition at GunBroker.com

Gouger's are dicks. The guy paying this is a moron.

 

[jwh20]

The ammo makers are CAPACITY CONSTRAINED. For a manufacturer, it's a good problem to have. That means that 100% of what you can produce is already sold.

So what would you do if you have various products you can make, ALL of which are capacity constrained?

It's a no-brainer, you concentrate on what is MOST PROFITABLE. .22LR is cheap relative to handgun and centerfire rifle ammo. This is not to say that they are not making .22 ammo, just that given the resources they have, labor, raw materials, production space, shipping, etc. that they make MORE $$$ making stuff than .22.

I'd do the same thing!

 

[Sgtusmc]

I'm doing my part by not going to the range and holding on to what I have. It sucks though...I have a brand new unfired SR22p I've yet to try out as well as a PMR-30 I've yet to try out. Really itching to have a little fun, smell some spent powder, but my ability to hit a target has not diminshed.

 

[jwh20]

Damn capitalists, thats America I guess?

It's sure easy to hate capitalists isn't it? But I'd much rather have a capitalist system than the socialist alternative where the government decides what to build and how much.

So if Mr. Obama's "central committee" were in charge of ammo manufacturing across the USA, do you think he could eliminate the shortage?

 

[mistap]

The ammo makers are CAPACITY CONSTRAINED. For a manufacturer, it's a good problem to have. That means that 100% of what you can produce is already sold.

So what would you do if you have various products you can make, ALL of which are capacity constrained?

It's a no-brainer, you concentrate on what is MOST PROFITABLE. .22LR is cheap relative to handgun and centerfire rifle ammo. This is not to say that they are not making .22 ammo, just that given the resources they have, labor, raw materials, production space, shipping, etc. that they make MORE $$$ making stuff than .22.

I'd do the same thing!

Do you know that there is less margin on .22lr, or are you just assuming that because the price point is less it is less profitable? Personally, I do not know.

 

[Sgtusmc]

It's sure easy to hate capitalists isn't it? But I'd much rather have a capitalist system than the socialist alternative where the government decides what to build and how much.

So if Mr. Obama's "central committee" were in charge of ammo manufacturing across the USA, do you think he could eliminate the shortage?

Hence the purple my friend.

 

[jwh20]

Hence the purple my friend.

I know!

 

[jwh20]

Do you know that there is less margin on .22lr, or are you just assuming that because the price point is less it is less profitable? Personally, I do not know.

I'm not an ammo maker but I'd bet that there is significantly less margin on .22LR than 9mm 115gr. ball FMJ ammo.

The most convincing evidence is the .22 LR shortage. If .22 LR was higher margin, there would be more of it.

But you're point is well taken, we're assuming. In general, however, a lower priced commodity, the margin is lower than a higher priced commodity.

 

[MrsTuesday]

We just purchased a S&W M&P22 for teaching our children to shoot a pistol. Thinking cheaper ammo, ambidextrous safety (4 left handed shooters) seemed like a good plan. Threw 100 rounds down range (5 kids big enough to shoot and 2 adults with 12+1 mag makes that go by quickly) now we must wait for more fun until we can pick up more ammo. Seems a shame. I'm not practicing with mine much due to unavailablity of replacement ammo. Stinks. But it's life.

 

[bthomas]

22 was cheaper to plink with. most people that enjoy the sport with various calibers also have 22s. I know I do and since the price went up on all the other calibers, everyone is like "I guess I will just play with my 22s for the next year" I guess that is alot of people with that thought.
My LGS has had CCI 22lr in stock for well over a month $9 per 100 (no bulk). I am not interested in shooting 22s for even .09 cents a round. They have also had .223 in stock for over a month @13 a box for pmc 55GR and 12 a box for Golden Bear. I have enough I will wait till it under .50 a round before I buy any .223.

 

[oneshotadam]

Its so common and owned by many people, glad I got mine earlier though got a good 750 rounds id guess

 

[Longhair]

.22LR Ammo Ammunition Bullets 525 Rounds Remington : Rifle Ammunition at GunBroker.com

Gouger's are dicks. The guy paying this is a moron.

WOW Idiots like this (winning ) bidder makes me want to list some of my stash on GB. At these prices I'm sitting on about 4k in .22.

 

[edsinger]

.22LR Ammo Ammunition Bullets 525 Rounds Remington : Rifle Ammunition at GunBroker.com

Gouger's are dicks. The guy paying this is a moron.

Well I would like to give him a deal. I would sell him another for a bargain of $130.....geez this is nuts!

 

[TheRude1]

?
2 things i'm guessen
1. They want to be like Canada. You can have a gun you just need to buy ammo from them ?
2. One is no good without the other !

Al Gore said something 15 yrs or so ago like "If you want to control guns we need to control the ammo" or something like that



Do like some of the police/sherrif departments are doing. Train with airsoft cause they are also concerned about ammo themselfs.

And yes this is happenening

 

[bloodandgutsmurphy]

Many first time buyers bought 22's when the panic started. For the most part they are less expensive to buy than AR's and AK's. Ammo is also cheaper for much more. When the people bought the guns they also needed ammo. So all the ammo got bought.

It was just about 2 weeks ago I ran into a guy at walmart that had recently purchased his first gun ever. A sig 22 pistol. He said he had not been able to find any ammo for it. It is those people that I am waiting for after the panic stops. There will be many people with guns and ammo who know nothing about guns and ammo. The only they bought is because everybody else was. Once the thrill is gone I am looking for some good deals to be going up.

I hope these people never lose their thrill for shooting. I hope they take classes for their guns, learn how to use them, and have fun with them. I am always welcome to beginning. I gave the shooting bug to one of my friends today. He shoot my Ruger 10/22 and Makarov and loved it. We are going to go shooting later this week at Deb's Gun Range and rent their Python. I hope he has another blast.

 

[38special]

Yet another thread that devolved into hating capitalism. Fun fun.

I do find this puzzling, though. When a seller on Gunbroker lists a box of 525 .22lr for a starting bid of $20 (a reasonable price by any measure) - a box that is not marked "new and improved" (which means he bought it before Remington changed it - a while ago), and the BUYER determines the price they pay, how - exactly - can this seller be construed as a "price gouger"? He didn't even set the price. Have we really that much disdain for capitalism just because the market is flexing on something we like?

Nevermind the fact that price gouging is only relevant when there is no alternative and it's a necessary commodity for life, which .22lr is not. (ie. $30 bottle of water in the wake of tornado damage).

Or as a commenter put it on a "price gouging" article I recently read: "Jacking up prices in an emergency is "price gouging" but when there is no emergency and the demand doubles or more, then prices rising is just a function of that basic economic principle. The price of any product should be a function of what purchasers are ready, willing and able to pay. "Liking" the new price is not an economic factor."