Kosciusko County Bounty Hunter shootout.

[churchmouse]

Do bounty hunters have qualified immunity when they get it wrong?

Good question. Really good question.

I know how we all feel about our rights. My only comment on this would be that most all of us do not put ourselves in the cross hairs of these people and LEO through wrong doing.
This individual had a history of idiocy.

 

[Gluemanz28]

God help ya if you attempt to enter my home without a warrant or "no knock", regardless of your "authority".

I'm betting Gary Helman said the same thing.

 

[jamil]

Do bounty hunters have qualified immunity when they get it wrong?

I would think not.

 

[churchmouse]

I would think not.

You do not here much about this.
Possibly they do better research and verify who is in the house before they storm the castle walls.

 

[JetGirl]

Do bounty hunters have qualified immunity when they get it wrong?

If they get it wrong, I'm sure they get something.

 

[jamil]

You do not here much about this.
Possibly they do better research and verify who is in the house before they storm the castle walls.

I think if they mess up it's on them, so I imagine they might want to get it right. It doesn't sound like they stormed the castle walls first in this case. They didn't stack up at the door, smash the door in, toss the flash-bang, and storm in. I think they knocked on the door first. Or maybe rung the doorbell.

 

[churchmouse]

I think if they mess up it's on them, so I imagine they might want to get it right. It doesn't sound like they stormed the castle walls first in this case. They didn't stack up at the door, smash the door in, toss the flash-bang, and storm in. I think they knocked on the door first. Or maybe rung the doorbell.

Exactly my point.
I am no fan of the no knock storm the castle raids. always goes sideways during these deals. Everyone is high on adrenalin and those being raided respond in kind sometimes.
Factor in the mis-steps and bad info LEO experiences and these are just not a good idea.
As to these Bond agents they have a job to do. If you sign the papers honor the commitment and go to court.
Oh, wait a second, these are mostly bad eggs anyway with no honor/integrity/moral fiber etc.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

If "bounty hunters" approach me and attempt to detain me for a warrant, what gives them the authority to do so?

horn, contract, not the warrant.

You sign a contract with the bondsman promising to show up to your court dates. You do not. The bail agents are bringing you in on breach of contract.

Here's a good starting point: https://litigation-essentials.lexis...cid=3B15&key=b82d4b6a66b69f2f254897871a06ed5c

Horn also look under IC 27-10-2-7.

IC 27-10-2-7
Apprehension of defendant; time; fees
Sec. 7. For the purpose of surrendering the defendant, the surety
may apprehend the defendant before or after the forfeiture of the
undertaking or may empower any law enforcement officer to make
apprehension by providing written authority endorsed on a certified
copy of the undertaking and paying the lawful fees therefor.

And some more reading.
http://www.in.gov/idoi/files/Bail_Laws.pdf

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Firstly... I thought Enchanted Hills was in Syracuse. (Isn't that where the Playhouse used to be?)
Secondly... if bounty hunters are licensed by the state, why do they have a right to go into a home without a warrant if cops licensed by the state don't?
Thirdly, (note to all bounty hunters) double check your address before you storm a castle... if you're wrong, you might be dead wrong.

Common law per the IN supreme and appellate courts along with IC 27-10-2-7. But it only applies to the persons house not third parties.
Google Scholar

 

[Hardscrable]

Firstly... I thought Enchanted Hills was in Syracuse. (Isn't that where the Playhouse used to be?)
Secondly... if bounty hunters are licensed by the state, why do they have a right to go into a home without a warrant if cops licensed by the state don't?
Thirdly, (note to all bounty hunters) double check your address before you storm a castle... if you're wrong, you might be dead wrong.

Enchanted Hills is on the far eastern side of Lake Wawasee actually closer to Cromwell than the town of Syracuse. The postal address for area is Cromwell.

 

[Hardscrable]

Last local news report stated investigation is continuing with charges possible. Did not say possible against Mother, brother, or bounty hunter.

 

[JetGirl]

Enchanted Hills is on the far eastern side of Lake Wawasee actually closer to Cromwell than the town of Syracuse. The postal address for area is Cromwell.

I was wondering if it was two separate places that happened to have the same name. I think all the playbills we've gotten have all said Syracuse, that's why I asked.

 

[Hardscrable]

I was wondering if it was two separate places that happened to have the same name. I think all the playbills we've gotten have all said Syracuse, that's why I asked.

I haven't heard anything regarding the play house for a long, long time...thought maybe it was shut down.

Wawasee is 9 miles long so enters next postal address. Cromwell is actually a couple miles further east of E. Hills on SR 5 south of US 6. Enchanted Hills is on t he east side of the road that runs along the east shoreline of Wawasee and connected by channel to the lake. Some nice homes and people...and some others. Incidents which cause police interaction are not uncommon.

 

[JetGirl]

I haven't heard anything regarding the play house for a long, long time...thought maybe it was shut down.

Yeah, it's been closed for quite awhile.

Wawasee is 9 miles long so enters next postal address. Cromwell is actually a couple miles further east of E. Hills on SR 5 south of US 6. Enchanted Hills is on t he east side of the road that runs along the east shoreline of Wawasee and connected by channel to the lake. Some nice homes and people...and some others. Incidents which cause police interaction are not uncommon.

I'm familiar. I used to live on Wawasee.

 

[wtfd661]

Bounty hunters are scary people