Lafayette, Cameras downtown

[Kirk Freeman]

Lafayette, Indiana installs cameras downtown in order to fight crime . . . and police boredom.

The reason to do so, which was oddly covered up, was to meet the demands of female employees of LPD to watch Kirk walk around downtown and get into his truck after work.

Lafayette installs downtown cameras for safety - chicagotribune.com

Cameras to surveil downtown | jconline.com | Journal and Courier

 

[jbombelli]

I'm pretty sure they installed them so they can get my picture on the rare occasion I go to Lafayette, take that picture home and hold it up with one hand.

 

[MTC]

...female employees of LPD to watch Kirk walk around downtown and get into his truck after work.

Or maybe former SMERSH operatives working for SPECTRE. Watch your back, agent Freeman, and don't forget to check the underside of the truck.

 

[ocsdor]

It's to take count and track all of us Tea Partiers that show up every year on tax day.

 

[KokomoDave]

...or to laught hysterically when they catch somebody picking their nose.

Actually Lafayette has had a recent influx of ex-Cabrini Green residents from the Chi-town area and they are commiting minor and major crimes. The popo can't be everywhere at once but if they are robbing/stealing/tagging with spray paint,they are easier to catch with video surveillance. That is also a good back-up in court for probable cause for arrest.

 

[Leadeye]

Coed watching?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Coed watching?

Pffft, that's why PUPD is always on top of the parking garages.

 

[Bill of Rights]

...or to laught hysterically when they catch somebody picking their nose.

Actually Lafayette has had a recent influx of ex-Cabrini Green residents from the Chi-town area and they are commiting minor and major crimes. The popo can't be everywhere at once but if they are robbing/stealing/tagging with spray paint,they are easier to catch with video surveillance. That is also a good back-up in court for probable cause for arrest.

And if that's all they were able to be used for, I'd possibly think they were OK, but as with anything else, the possibility and indeed, probability of abuse is far too high for me to consider them remotely acceptable.

This is the path down which London trod... and at this point, an Englishman cannot go through his day in that town without appearing on numerous cameras. There is not only no expectation of privacy there, the entire concept is laughable.

It is a dangerous road and a very slippery slope to enter upon.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[level.eleven]

Stimulus money, federalization of local law enforcement. Double whammy for government - make-work and surveillance all wrapped into a nice package.

Every town is getting these in some form over the next few years. I looked up my town and noticed that we even received stimulus money for "mobile cameras".

 

[snapping turtle]

In england they do stuff like fake pick pocketing, muggings and such to make the cameras work hard. Since they are a group of artists and street preformers they have had a hard time convicting or charging them with anything.

Kind of like street preformers with a political agenda.

 

[jeremy]

Sooooo...

I guess no more nights getting drunk and running around downtown...

 

[Kirk Freeman]

In england they do stuff like fake pick pocketing, muggings and such to make the cameras work hard.

Back to the Motherland:

YouTube - TV report of Alien captured on CCTV

 

[9mm Bill]

I've lived in Lafayette pretty much all of my life. I have never felt the need to carry a gun except for the last few years. Now it's keeping one eye over my shoulder and one hand on the the Sig P238 in my front pocket. Mostly downtown.

 

[Redemption]

No reason to go downtown anyway.

 

[9mm Bill]

Downtown is a nice place to get a bite to eat plus a cold one. Beats the mall.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

No reason to go downtown anyway.

Why you could get some yummy coffee, or a bison burger, or a microbrew, or play some pool, going shopping, get candy, get sushi, buy a book, have a vegan meal or a steak, or . . . just hang out with Kirk. I even let rhino downtown.

 

[KokomoDave]

And if that's all they were able to be used for, I'd possibly think they were OK, but as with anything else, the possibility and indeed, probability of abuse is far too high for me to consider them remotely acceptable.

This is the path down which London trod... and at this point, an Englishman cannot go through his day in that town without appearing on numerous cameras. There is not only no expectation of privacy there, the entire concept is laughable.

It is a dangerous road and a very slippery slope to enter upon.

Blessings,
Bill

Ah but you forget! ANYBODY can take your pic or full motion video if you are in public. That has been contested and upheld in every court I can think of. You ARE subject of the scrutiny of the general public if you air your dirty britches in front of John Q. Public. Google it and be enlightened. If you want privacy,do it in your own home with the blinds closed. That's why we have 'Plain Sight' laws for Probable Cause to effect an arrest i.e. Katz v. United States 389 U.S. 347 (1967).

The Plain View doctrine in Horton v. California 496 U.S. 128 ( 1990) and State v. Hollins 672 N.E. 2d 427 (Ind 1996),Sloane v. State 686 N.E. 2d 1287 (Ind App 1987) further refines this. Also see Neville v. State 663 N.E. 2d 169(1996). Also relavent is Culpepper v. State 662 n.E. 2d 670(Ind 1996). A small item is Cady v. Sate 702 N.E. 2d 364 ( Ind App 1998) as well as Payton v. New York 445 U.S. 573 (1980)

Your curtilage enjoys certain freedoms but when you are enjoined in an area out side that,you are susceptiple to Plain View laws such as Blalock v. State 483 N.E. 2d 439 (Ind 1985).

If you feel like you have been unjustly accused,you can use the Exclusionary Rule.

 

[ATM]

...I even let rhino downtown.

This must be a recent change.

I didn't think he was even allowed north of Linden.

 

[96firephoenix]

A) what crime is there to fight in Lafayette aside from UA drinking at Purdue?

B) how well have these cameras worked in other places that have them?

first one is rhetorical, second one is serious.

 

[ar15junkie]

It is a dangerous road and a very slippery slope to enter upon.

Absolutely, in fact in the last year or 2 Illinois did the same thing. They made a case of installing cameras in "da projex" and then it was any high crime area and my feeling is that soon it will be any area.