Latest Polls: Coats 52% of the vote ~ Rebecca Sink Burris not on radar!

[SavageEagle]

Well, Ryan, since you aren't dicator you don't get to have everything you want. Plenty of your fellow Americans DID vote for those things.

Change their minds, and you'll get the change you want. So far, neither you, I, nor RSB have managed to do so, so the downward spiral will continue.

MMmmmm nope. Last I looked politicians in Washington that lied about their intentions while campaigning did those things. Not the American People. Unless there's some place I can go to vote on things in Congress I seem to have missed.

RSB's problem is that she isn't being proactive enough. I never see her face on the news. I never see her making weekly youtube videos. Does she even have a daily blog out there? If so it's not making any waves.

 

[Joe Williams]

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RSB's problem is that she isn't being proactive enough. I never see her face on the news. I never see her making weekly youtube videos. Does she even have a daily blog out there? If so it's not making any waves.

Heck, haven't even seen any campaign signs. She's running a stealth campaign. It's a shame for her, because the current environment is ripe for third party candidates to grab a big enough percentage of the vote to be taken seriously in two years.

 

[dross]

The only political poll that matters is the VOTE. Polls are crap because unless you poll EVERYONE, you're not going to get real results. You could call 500 random people across America and just happen to call mostly liberals, or mostly conservatives. You just don't know. And who's to say Rasmussen isn't corrupt? Can you say for 100% certainty that they are not?

And how would you feel if you were running for office and had a large following, yet instead of naming you, they listed you under "Other"? How are people suppose to know who those "others" are and just how much a percentage they have?

Scientific my ass.

Statistical sampling has been debunked, right here on INGO.

 

[melensdad]

The only political poll that matters is the VOTE. Polls are crap because unless you poll EVERYONE, you're not going to get real results. You could call 500 random people across America and just happen to call mostly liberals, or mostly conservatives. You just don't know. And who's to say Rasmussen isn't corrupt? Can you say for 100% certainty that they are not?

And how would you feel if you were running for office and had a large following, yet instead of naming you, they listed you under "Other"? How are people suppose to know who those "others" are and just how much a percentage they have?

Scientific my ass.

When I was in graduate school we had to do statistically significant polling and it is far different than what you suggest in this post. Sorry, but your post is based on ignorance of fact and is totally uniformed.

No poll can ever be perfect, but to suggest that polls are crap is absolutely uninformed and inaccurate. Good polling companies can give a snapshot that is very close to accurate.

 

[E5RANGER375]

Im voting for her. F*** dan coats

 

[BC9]

But if people vote for someone who has no statistical chance of winning then its possible to send a real message[/color]. As it is both the Dems and the GOP are expecting Ms Sink-Burris to attain about 3 to 4% of the total vote. They are expecting Coats to walk away with a big majority at something over 50% and they are expecting Ellsworth to have nearly 40% of the vote (after the undecideds actually decide).

But 5000 to 10,000 extra votes for Rebecca Sink-Burris could bump her up to 7, 8 or even 9% of the total. It could also drop Coats down to something under 50% (he's still win) and it could drop Ellsworth down under 33%. A big turnout for a third party sends a big message to the dominant party. It won't change the results but it will impact some future decisions.

Ross Perot got 18.9% of the vote in 1992. We ended up with Slick Willy & it doesn't look like anybody got THE MESSAGE. Sure, the R's picked up a bunch of seats in 1994 with their Contract with America, but what real good came out of that? The R's started spending like D's and the gov't kept on growing.

In '08, I didn't vote for McCain, I voted against Obama. In '10, I'm not voting for Coates, I'm voting against Ellsworth.

I'm not saying that we should just throw in the towel, but we need to work patiently for the changes we want made. The Progressives have been working at this for over 100 years and we can't expect to change it all around in 1 or 2 election cycles. We need to exercise diligence, patience & persistence. Assuming Coates gets elected, we need to let him know, on a regular basis, what we expect of him and we need to call him on the carpet when he's wrong. (inflation).

 

[SavageEagle]

You guys really take polls at face value and accept them? I'm sorry, but THAT'S ignorant. I don't believe any of them until the fat lady sings. And all of this is irrelevant anyway. The point is that everyone, EVERYONE didn't even give her a chance. Not the media, not the people, and most of the people on this forum. And why? Because she's third party. Everyone has this preconceived notion that NO ONE third party can win. No one stops to think that, hey, maybe if all us nay-sayers actually went with our gut and voted for the best person for the job, DAMN, third party could actually win!

Too bad common sense left the station long ago.

 

[WWIIIDefender]

Well I am a member of Indiana Defenders Of liberty and INGO. Rebecca is also a member of both and puts forth input in both. I would say in my world she is quite well known. Heck I have personally talked with her. Never talked, seen or heard Coats or Ellsworth.

I think she is doing a great job provided the non existing funds she has. She has my vote and I am sure the people over at INDY Defenders of Liberty who were responsible for the first true tea party feel the same. You might be supprised, she could make double digits, which would send a bazooka message.

 

[Vasili]

this election will come down to 16,500 votes.

 

[Vasili]

this election will come down to 16,500 votes.

 

[SavageEagle]

Well I am a member of Indiana Defenders Of liberty and INGO. Rebecca is also a member of both and puts forth input in both. I would say in my world she is quite well known. Heck I have personally talked with her. Never talked, seen or heard Coats or Ellsworth.

I think she is doing a great job provided the non existing funds she has. She has my vote and I am sure the people over at INDY Defenders of Liberty who were responsible for the first true tea party feel the same. You might be supprised, she could make double digits, which would send a bazooka message.

How soon we forget, eh? Seems everyone here supports the Tea Party and in the same breath turns their backs on them come election day. My true fears about the whole situation is coming to a head. Everyone will talk the talk, but very few walk the walk.

Oh did I read about change and voting them all out. And here, now, we have someone who's not been to Washington, has no power player friends on the hill, someone like you and me....

Yet most everyone on this site is turning their backs on her. ****, even the TEA Party couldn't vote for the ONE GUY FROM THEIR OWN GROUP, Richard Behney, because "Oh he'd never win"....

Do you people not get it???? Coats, Ellsworth, IT DOESN"T ****ING MATTER WHICH ONE YOU SEND!!!!!!!! The end result will be the same through different means. Want to vote Coats to beat Ellsworth? Fine. It won't matter and you're just contributing to the problem.

Some of you people really sicken me. Hell, I sicken myself for failing to do more to help Richard and Rebecca.

Nothing is going to change. Nothing. One day when Socialism has destroyed this Country, I wonder how many will look back wishing they'd voted third party? Probably no one.

 

[Eddie]

The re-cap of the debate was on the morning news. Ellsworth and Coats got lengthy quotes. RSB got a fleeting glimpse with no sound bite.

 

[Joe Williams]

The re-cap of the debate was on the morning news. Ellsworth and Coats got lengthy quotes. RSB got a fleeting glimpse with no sound bite.

A third party candidate hoping for coverage from the media is usually a pipe dream. She's gonna have to make her own noise. She's got a week to show the state how she clobbered them in the debates, and how sickening those two were during the debates and how undesirable their policies are.

I'm voting for her, but it's purely out of disgust with the other two. Otherwise, her inability to gather attention would have me ignoring her like most of the state is.

 

[Ogre]

How soon we forget, eh? Seems everyone here supports the Tea Party and in the same breath turns their backs on them come election day. My true fears about the whole situation is coming to a head. Everyone will talk the talk, but very few walk the walk.

Oh did I read about change and voting them all out. And here, now, we have someone who's not been to Washington, has no power player friends on the hill, someone like you and me....

Yet most everyone on this site is turning their backs on her. ****, even the TEA Party couldn't vote for the ONE GUY FROM THEIR OWN GROUP, Richard Behney, because "Oh he'd never win"....

Do you people not get it???? Coats, Ellsworth, IT DOESN"T ****ING MATTER WHICH ONE YOU SEND!!!!!!!! The end result will be the same through different means. Want to vote Coats to beat Ellsworth? Fine. It won't matter and you're just contributing to the problem.

Some of you people really sicken me. Hell, I sicken myself for failing to do more to help Richard and Rebecca.

Nothing is going to change. Nothing. One day when Socialism has destroyed this Country, I wonder how many will look back wishing they'd voted third party? Probably no one.

I'd rep you if I could.
I get sick of hearing, "just be patient" "vote for the one who has a chance at winning"..... Nothing like being sick of the status quo, but continually voting in more of the same, and expecting a different outcome...

 

[melensdad]

You guys really take polls at face value and accept them? . . .
believe any of them until the fat lady sings.
. . . The point is that everyone, EVERYONE didn't even give her a chance. Not the media, not the people, and most of the people on this forum. . .

Savage you really have to go back and read more carefully what is written because nobody said to take polls at face value. However it was suggested that there are good polls that give a snapshot of the events. Still it was also suggested that even the good polls should be checked against similar good pools to confirm the data. If that is taking something at face value then win this round, but I'm pretty sure if you read what I actually wrote you'll see the light.

As for R S-B, you'll see that I've championed her cause in several threads, but her campaign was abysmal. The media did, in fact, slight her. The people didn't simply because they don't even know she is running. You can't slight someone who doesn't exist and in the eyes of the electorate she simply is a ghost.

 

[irishfan]

this will be my first third party vote

 

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