lucas oil stadium security update.....

[Twiggsx1]

Yeah.. That was in the OP...

...having that much trouble coming up with 50 quality posts?

just giving my

 

[T.Lex]

the problem is people would still go to the game even if they .... shoot every 5th person that came through the gate.

Ah - so you've been to a Lions game?!

 

[youngda9]

The last time I went to a Bull's game they were doing that about every 20 people, and that was like 5 years ago. For everyone one else it was lift your shirt to your waist line, and your pants past your ankle.

Fairly soon isn't going to be "lift your pants past your ankle" it is going to be "drop your pants to your ankles" if we keep going down this slope I'm afraid.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Ahhh, private organizations putting rules on publicly taxpayer-funded arenas that force you to waive your rights.

No thanks, NFL. You respect my rights, and I'll give you my money.

 

[2tonic]

Jeremy
I don't mean to be obtuse here, but if killing a lot of people is not the goal of a terror attack, what is?
Common opinion might say creating the most carnage, overwhelming emergency services, and making the populace feel they are not safe anywhere are the goals of an attack.
We've seen the emergence of the two and even three stage attack where terrorists shoot up a cafe or set off an explosive device to bring in police and rescue personnel, as well as gawkers, and then detonate a very large device at the same location. Alternatively, they'll create a series of disturbances/detonations intended to herd people down several streets into a common square or choke point and then unleash a devastating anti-personnel (read nails and ballbearings) device when the maximum amount of people are in the kill radius.
This tactics would seem to evidence a desire to kill the most people possible. What say you?

 

[DarkRose]

Jeremy
I don't mean to be obtuse here, but if killing a lot of people is not the goal of a terror attack, what is?
Common opinion might say creating the most carnage, overwhelming emergency services, and making the populace feel they are not safe anywhere are the goals of an attack.
We've seen the emergence of the two and even three stage attack where terrorists shoot up a cafe or set off an explosive device to bring in police and rescue personnel, as well as gawkers, and then detonate a very large device at the same location. Alternatively, they'll create a series of disturbances/detonations intended to herd people down several streets into a common square or choke point and then unleash a devastating anti-personnel (read nails and ballbearings) device when the maximum amount of people are in the kill radius.
This tactics would seem to evidence a desire to kill the most people possible. What say you?

Not trying to step on Jeremy's toes here, but IMO, the object if a terror attack is to cause TERROR. Mass hysteria, panic, fear, etc.
Think about it, say they kill 5000, that's terrible and we read about it on the news and it's a huge cleanup... (Really NOT trying to downplay it, bear with me)

But in todays day and age, think about WOUNDING 5000 or 10000 people. You've got 5-10k people stumbling around, panicking, texting everyone they can think of, trying to make calls because they can't think straight. Getting ahold of friends and family and spreading the word PERSONALLY, causing MORE people to rush to the scene causing chaos and confusion... Snarling traffic, cell networks, data networks, Emergency responders in gridlock, trying to figure out how and WHERE to transport that many wounded. Then you've got ambulatory or walking wounded, or just plain good samaritans attempting to help, getting in the way (there's nothing wrong with giving help or aid, but there is a difference between helping and hindering, and some people don't know the difference).

That's just what comes to mind off the top of my head after the 5th day in a 6 day stretch of 10+ hour shifts...

I apoligize if this was

 

[jeremy]

Jeremy
I don't mean to be obtuse here, but if killing a lot of people is not the goal of a terror attack, what is?
Common opinion might say creating the most carnage, overwhelming emergency services, and making the populace feel they are not safe anywhere are the goals of an attack.
We've seen the emergence of the two and even three stage attack where terrorists shoot up a cafe or set off an explosive device to bring in police and rescue personnel, as well as gawkers, and then detonate a very large device at the same location. Alternatively, they'll create a series of disturbances/detonations intended to herd people down several streets into a common square or choke point and then unleash a devastating anti-personnel (read nails and ballbearings) device when the maximum amount of people are in the kill radius.
This tactics would seem to evidence a desire to kill the most people possible. What say you?

Killing lots of Persons is Bonus to them, not the reason for the Targeting, here in the US. The Targets are chosen for a Reason to inflict Mayhem. Generally speaking of Course...

 

[Expat]

After seeing those thugs going at it out in Kali in the stands, no way I would go unarmed. I don't trust the NFL to protect me. So I guess I will watch on TV.

 

[MrSmitty]

So...when the Packer get to the Super Bowl at Lucas Stadium, I can't carry my P-11...or my knife? maybe time to buy this;
http://www.assistedknife.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/25000/subcatid/59412/id/323757

 

[Mr. Habib]

So...when the Packer get to the Super Bowl at Lucas Stadium, I can't carry my P-11...or my knife? maybe time to buy this;
http://www.assistedknife.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/25000/subcatid/59412/id/323757

Neck knife and P-11 in a Smart Carry.

 

[Carmelbythecorn]

Until people finally say "enough!" and stop giving up our fourth amendment rights, the government will continue to push and push and push.... Will people stand up? One weekend of half-filled stadiums and this policy would change.

 

[Hayseed_40]

Just remember guns don't kill people - trying to sit through a whole Colt's game kills people...

 

[phatgemi]

Until people finally say "enough!" and stop giving up our fourth amendment rights, the government will continue to push and push and push.... Will people stand up? One weekend of half-filled stadiums and this policy would change.

Never gonna happen. Heck the Bengals play to half filled stadiums and they can't even get the owners attention much less the league.

 

[andrew]

So...when the Packer get to the Super Bowl at Lucas Stadium, I can't carry my P-11...or my knife? maybe time to buy this;
Blackie Collins CIA Knife w/ Plain Blade - Black Tactical

Or this: Official Greg Gillespie Belt Buckle Knife - Buckle Knife

 

[furbymac]

Until people finally say "enough!" and stop giving up our fourth amendment rights, the government will continue to push and push and push.... Will people stand up? One weekend of half-filled stadiums and this policy would change.

but you have to remember for the colts there is a waiting list for season tickets so the stadium is sold out every home game before the season ever starts.

 

[Destro]

Ahhh, private organizations putting rules on publicly taxpayer-funded arenas that force you to waive your rights.

No thanks, NFL. You respect my rights, and I'll give you my money.

as long as they don't write rubber checks to lease the building, afaic they are free to refuse service to anyone for any reason they so desire at any time, that is THEIR right.

 

[stephen87]

So...when the Packer get to the Super Bowl at Lucas Stadium, I can't carry my P-11...or my knife? maybe time to buy this;
Blackie Collins CIA Knife w/ Plain Blade - Black Tactical

I don't know how true it is, but i read somewhere that the stadium the Superbowl is played at becomes a federally protected building because of the number of "important people" there. From what I read, everyone gets a full wand and patdown there anyway. I'll see if I can find it again.

 

[jeremy]

So...when the Packer get to the Super Bowl at Lucas Stadium, I can't carry my P-11...or my knife? maybe time to buy this;
Blackie Collins CIA Knife w/ Plain Blade - Black Tactical

I have used, several variations on this theme. I have found that the "dart" type is more effective, at least for me anyway...

I don't know how true it is, but i read somewhere that the stadium the Superbowl is played at becomes a federally protected building because of the number of "important people" there. From what I read, everyone gets a full wand and patdown there anyway. I'll see if I can find it again.

Really?!
I am interested in your answer...

 

[Destro]

I don't know how true it is, but i read somewhere that the stadium the Superbowl is played at becomes a federally protected building because of the number of "important people" there. From what I read, everyone gets a full wand and patdown there anyway. I'll see if I can find it again.

It becomes a National Special Security Event

 

[stephen87]

Every Superbowl since Superbowl XXXVI has been a NSSE. Google NSSE Superbowl and it gives you a crap load of sites.

www.SecretService.gov/press/pub0202.pdf