M44 Mosin

[Glockman20]

MILLER TYME... those are awesome. I only need one

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Classic Firearms will be putting some Russian M44's up for sale starting at noon tomorrow (4/6/17) starting at 299.99. Just got an email from them.

 

[A 7.62 Exodus]

Classic Firearms will be putting some Russian M44's up for sale starting at noon tomorrow (4/6/17) starting at 299.99. Just got an email from them.

Watched the video on them, and unless you REALLY want one, save your money. The look a solid $100 overpriced imo.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Watched the video on them, and unless you REALLY want one, save your money. The look a solid $100 overpriced imo.

Well to be fair, they ALL seem at least $100 overpriced to me these days.

 

[johntheplinker]

Honestly not sure what happened or what changed but Mosin 91/30's and M44's were easy to find and pretty darn cheap just a few years ago. Now they seem to be getting harder to find and the surplus ammo seems to be getting hard to find too

What changed is the number of Americans interested in their 2nd Amendment rights.

There's been a HUGE increase in new shooters the last few years and now that "Trump is literally Hitler" even the leftards are starting to get in on the action. Before, it was "only the cops and military need guns" but now it's, "I think I'm going to buy a gun."

Since Mosins are entry-level big rifles, it's simple market conditions that are driving up the prices. Each day when someone tells me they used to remember when Mosins were $80 I remind them gas used to be a quarter.

Not quite that simple. Mosins are not an unlimited resource. The Russians and Soviets made and bought something on the order of IIRC 18 million total. How many were destroyed in WWI and WWII? Considering their losses in men and other material, I'd say a bunch and then some. How many were sent to China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, and various other places to spread the revolution where they remain or have long since been melted down? How have already been imported to the U.S.? One figure I saw several years ago put out by the ATF was almost 1 million imported in one year! How many were sold in other countries, such as Canada?
Also we have to consider sources. Eastern Europe is dry, and been dry for years. Ukraine was the source of many of the Mosins for many years. Did they export all they had before the unpleasantries started with Russia or are they sitting on some for a last ditch reserve? Doesn't really matter, we can't import from there anymore anyway. Then there are the other ex-USSR nations. Some can't or won't export to the U.S., some didn't have many to start with. Basically that leaves Russia itself. They are willing to export to us, and in fact most of the last large quantities came from there. Unfortunately, one of Obama's actions against Russia following the Crimea deal took care of that.
Ammo is basically the same situation, with the exception we can still import some ammo from Russia.
While no doubt a few new shooters got a Mosin, I'd be willing to bet way more got .22s and ARs were sold to new shooters. I'd also be willing to bet a lot of those Mosins were shot one time then either sold because of recoil or put in a closet and haven't seen light of day since.

 

[thunderchicken]

I enjoy shooting mine would like to find a PU sniper to add to the mix. Typically I shoot whatever ammo I can get for one

 

[Sigblitz]

I realize this is an old thread. We were out today and I literally stumbled on a Mosin. Never had one. Of course my wife said I couldn't get it so I told the guy I would probably come back. Finish is rough but is it something I should get? Has the ghost ring sight with the elevating rear sight, one leather strap in the back but not the front, ammo belt, a few stripper clips of ammo, and bayonet in a sheath. 1947 model. I believe it's probably worth 275 but never desired to have one. Any opinions on going back to get it?

 

[JettaKnight]

If you don't want it, don't get it.

If you want it, get it.


These are battle rifles, not trophy guns, so almost all have rough finishes.

 

[Prowler28]

I have a Romanian M44 from 1954. Been meaning to refinish the stock as it is in lousy, lousy shape. Fun shooter.

 

[Gunsmiff12B]

They are out there, a few years back I traded a Walther p1 for a polish m44 and $300, it was rough but cleaned up nice, then last summer I stumbled on a guy selling Chinese m44 t53’s for $150 a piece, so naturally I bought them both. Also picked up a 91/30 with 200 rounds for $180. Best place to find them is just talking to people who own them and want to upgrade