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    INGO Clown
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    Humans have only explored about 5% of the oceans on the planet,
    and we talking about distances, stars, planets beyond count.


    It's the absolute height of vanity to assume Earth is the only source
    of life in the entire cosmos and humans are the top of the pyramid.
     

    CathyInBlue

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    "We miss ya, Pluto."

    LOLOLOLOLOL!

    The question about whether or not (or when) we will ever meet extraterrestrial intelligences is a question of our own longevity. As long as humanity lives long enough to manufacture a foothold among the stars, to step out of our planetary crib, it is assured. If we choose, and it will be a choice, to wallow in our own filth on a single planet, we will all die here, and the story of us will be written in microscopic traces among another million years of rock strata for one of those other intelligent races to puzzle over.
     

    indykid

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    One thousand million is one trillion, meaning there are over one trillion stars in our galaxy alone.

    When the Perkin-Elmer Company completed the optical telescope assembly, they held an open house for workers and their families. The telescope was built in a clean room that had one side being a glass wall. It was impressive just to see the Hubble, and I can't imagine the pride of the people who designed and built something using a dream as guidance. Many of the systems were invented especially for that telescope, including that amazing device that allowed a huge telescope in orbit to be able to focus on the equivalent of a grain of sand held at arms length for over 10 days.

    When the scientists addressed the people in the gathering room, the first thing they said was that they were going to keep an open mind as they looked at that which had never been seen before. Then one accidentally said they hope to be able to see the end of the universe. So some dummy (me) stood up and challenged him, much to the ire of the project managers (one of whom was my dad). The dummy said that keeping an open mind meant not expecting to find the end, but looking beyond the end. The dummy then said that if you focus to the furthest distance possible in one direction, and do not see the end of the universe, turn the telescope around and look in the other direction as we should be closer to that end, right? And then the dummy said that you probably still won't see the end in the other direction, but you will have proved that we are indeed the center of the universe!

    After the crowd stopped laughing, the scientist agreed with my idea that they will not be able to see the end of the universe given the idea of infinity. And you know what my friends? Guess who gave them the idea to do the experiment in the video?

    My dad once said that one of his greatest accomplishments in life was his legacy of that telescope. My father was in charge of making sure every part that was used for the optical telescope assembly was in spec, and tests that he wrote were preformed on all but one part before and after installation, and NASA formally apologized to him for not allowing him to test just one part.

    So in our universe, we can focus 13 plus billion light years from earth, and identify several thousand galaxies in what is measured as a grain of sand held at arms length. Figuring how many grains of sand it would take to focus on every part of the sky around the earth, and then realize that we are just looking at one focal distance, the number of galaxies in the "known" universe is bigger that our brains can comprehend, and then figure the trillions of starts in each galaxy!

    Yes, we are not alone, but unfortunately time and distance will preclude our ever meeting ET.
     

    JetGirl

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    The concept of God enters into it as well. If you believe Genesis, we were created in the "image" of God. If that is true and God created other worlds (why wouldn't he?) it would make sense that he also created "humans" on those worlds as well.

    Well, sure.
    Hebrews 11:3 says, "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

    Worlds. Not world. Worlds... Plural.
     

    CathyInBlue

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    All -illion words, in American English traditional usage, form a linear progression in the exponent of an exponential multiplier. For a given -illion word, take its associated value of n and plug it into this expression: X 10^(3 (n + 1)).

    • n, Greek(ish) prefix, -illion form, X 10^(3 (n + 1)), 1,000…
    • 0, n/a, thousand, X 10^3, 1,000
    • 1, mono-, million, X 10^6, 1,000,000
    • 2, bi-, billion, X 10^9, 1,000,000,000
    • 3, tri-, trillion, X 10^12, 1,000,000,000,000
    • 4, quad-, quadrillion, X 10^15, 1,000,000,000,000,000
    • 5, quinta-, quintillion, X 10^18, 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
    • 6, sexa-, sexillion, X 10^21, 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
    • 7, septa-, septillion, X 10^24, 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
    • 8, octa-, octillion, X 10^27, 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
    • 9, nona-, nonillion, X 10^30, 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
    • 10, deca-, decillion, X 10^33, 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
    For some, like British traditional usage, they dispense with "thousand" and the +1 portion of the expression, so a British "million" is an American "thousand". A British "billion" is an American "million", and so on. This usage is largely dying out with the predominance of American English usage throughout the world. Incidentally, while the prefixes are largely Greek in origin, the "-illion" suffix itself comes to us from French, so trying to understand these words in terms of any single donor language is folly.

    From this, we can construct the true -illion term from almost any conglomeration of smaller value terms.

    A million-billion would be "X 10^6 X 10^9 = X 10^15 = a quadrillion

    A billion-trillion-trillion would be "X 10^9 X 10^12 X 10^12 = X 10^33 = a decillion

    I do not know how the prefixes might stack within a single -illion term for even larger exponents. Perhaps X 10^66 would be a "decadecillion". This would make a googol (X 10^100) the same as a "thousand decadecadecillion". But I'm sure the Congress and President are working hard to make such terms commonplace in order to describe our national debt.
     
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