Keith_Indy
Master
Well, it is 12:06, and we are finally getting settled for bed. Meeting went till about 45 minutes ago, although the crowd kept dwindling every time we had a break.
I want to thank Lynn, Jerry, Mike, and Don for doing their presentations. I want to thank everyone who brought food, I don't think anyone went away hungry, and everyone's food was excellent.
I hear everyone enjoyed the shooting, and no ambulances or sheriffs were called, so I guess that went well. Got to love living semi-rural, where you can have people target shooting for a couple of hours and nobody says a peep.
We'll be posting more information as people get their notes. We had about 30 people in all, and it got quite toasty. Hopefully the weather will cooperate for the next meeting, otherwise I'll have to clean out my workshop to fit everyone comfortably.
Attending: 32 in all
Hotfarmboy1
SavageEagle
Lex Concord
Irishfan
CosmicJetFighterPilot
LS*!&DUBB
Soon to be Skunkerbit
Lynn Smith +2
The Colonel
SSGSAD
Que
AW-SIM
Steve
Charlie2
DHolder
Bendrx
USMC_0311
EKengle + Wife
Keith_Indy + wife
O2Guy
MinuteMan47
gator88
E5Rangle375 + Family
Pamcake
JSX1043
Activities:
-Range Time! Lots of function tests on new firearms, pistols, revolvers, some .22 rifles, a couple AR's, an AK, a sweet 16 ga. and .45 ACP Tommy!
-Chow Time! Great vittles, Grilled pork chops, pulled beef, spicy mac n' cheese, baked beans, too many desserts to remember!
-Larnin' time! We had a lot of newcomers and some first-time SHTF planners so we had a TON of get-off-the ground information!
-50/50 raffle - Steve organized a 50/50 raffle, with 1/2 the proceeds ($36 dollars) going into the MSG2 X fund. We are discussing what we can do with this fund below. I (Keith_Indy) am currently holding the money for safe keeping.
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Lynn Smith did small intro into food storage with resources from Wendy DeWitt, including a CD-ROM and extensive workbook. He also spoke about his own soda bread recipe and it's ease of making and storage, and even brought along a fresh baked loaf! He also showed us a couple of the great tricks of the trade the "Hobo stove" or tuna can stove. consisting of a tuna (or in his case cat food) can, strips of cardboard, and wax, and the soda can alcohol stove.
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E5Ranger375 discussed another version of an alcohol heater/stove consisting of a coffee can, de-tubed toilet paper roll and alcohol. He also showed the group how to break down and use an MRE, and how to get rid of the "fluff" and re-pack it to make it 1/3 it's size and keep the nutritional content.
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Steve shared with everyone his experiences in "prepping on a budget," utilizing warehouse stores and similar budget stores to get some of his supplies, including, Harbor Freight, Big Lots, Dollar Tree, and even the biggest money saver - garage sales! For a grand total of about $20, he showed us a LARGE survival knife, 2 pry bars, headlamp, carabiners, LED flashlight, plastic ammo case and LEATHERMAN multi-tool! Don't forget to think outside the box!
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DHolder gave a great lesson on canning, dehydrating, and vacuum-packing using the Foodsaver, as well as recipes and variation of your food supplies.
*************************
JSX1043 discussed the difference in breaking down one's plan into different parts and having multiple and redundant strategies. He discussed the likely event of "Bugging-In," and some basic principles for readying for 7-30 days.
Some topics discussed were:
1. Weather - the most likely event to cause you to bug in.
Wendy DeWitt's blog:
Everything Under The Sun
If you go to the Everthing Under The Sun website and email Wendy Dewitt she will email you a PDF version of the workbook she uses when she gives classes. It has a lot of info including recipes, how to build a rocket stove, and many many many food storage options.
Food Storage Seminar
Part 1 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 1 of 9. "Top 10 Reasons"
Part 2 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 2 of 9. "The System"
Part 3 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 3 of 9. "Worst Case Scenario"
Part 4 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 4 of 9. "Equivalency Page"
Part 5 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 5 of 9. "Where to store it all"
Part 6 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 6 of 9. "Pressure Canning Meat"
Part 7 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 7 of 9. "Solar Oven Cooking"
Part 8 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 7 of 9. "Solar Oven Cooking"
Part 9 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 9 of 9. "Questions and Answers"
Here is the info for the company that has the food grade 55 gal barrels:
B & B Box & Drum Inc
1527 Miller St
Indianapolis, IN 46221
(317) 639-5185
New & Used Boxes - Wholesale & Retail. We also sell 5 gallon buckets, 5 gallon plastic buckets, Poly Drums, Steel Drums & Fiber Drums. Come in and see if we have what you need!
Example of making a soda can stove: Can Stove
Example of making a can beacon/candle: Fire "Beacon"
FUTURE TOPICS:
1. Radio Communications
2. Home Defense/Fortification
3. Legal Options
4. More Food Preparation
5. Emergency Medical
ITEMS LEFT AT MY HOUSE:
Blue cooler w/ 6 pack of Pabst blue ribbon <- claimed by cosmicjetfighterpilot
1 bottle of Jagermeister
I want to thank Lynn, Jerry, Mike, and Don for doing their presentations. I want to thank everyone who brought food, I don't think anyone went away hungry, and everyone's food was excellent.
I hear everyone enjoyed the shooting, and no ambulances or sheriffs were called, so I guess that went well. Got to love living semi-rural, where you can have people target shooting for a couple of hours and nobody says a peep.
We'll be posting more information as people get their notes. We had about 30 people in all, and it got quite toasty. Hopefully the weather will cooperate for the next meeting, otherwise I'll have to clean out my workshop to fit everyone comfortably.
Attending: 32 in all
Hotfarmboy1
SavageEagle
Lex Concord
Irishfan
CosmicJetFighterPilot
LS*!&DUBB
Soon to be Skunkerbit
Lynn Smith +2
The Colonel
SSGSAD
Que
AW-SIM
Steve
Charlie2
DHolder
Bendrx
USMC_0311
EKengle + Wife
Keith_Indy + wife
O2Guy
MinuteMan47
gator88
E5Rangle375 + Family
Pamcake
JSX1043
Activities:
-Range Time! Lots of function tests on new firearms, pistols, revolvers, some .22 rifles, a couple AR's, an AK, a sweet 16 ga. and .45 ACP Tommy!
-Chow Time! Great vittles, Grilled pork chops, pulled beef, spicy mac n' cheese, baked beans, too many desserts to remember!
-Larnin' time! We had a lot of newcomers and some first-time SHTF planners so we had a TON of get-off-the ground information!
-50/50 raffle - Steve organized a 50/50 raffle, with 1/2 the proceeds ($36 dollars) going into the MSG2 X fund. We are discussing what we can do with this fund below. I (Keith_Indy) am currently holding the money for safe keeping.
*************************
Lynn Smith did small intro into food storage with resources from Wendy DeWitt, including a CD-ROM and extensive workbook. He also spoke about his own soda bread recipe and it's ease of making and storage, and even brought along a fresh baked loaf! He also showed us a couple of the great tricks of the trade the "Hobo stove" or tuna can stove. consisting of a tuna (or in his case cat food) can, strips of cardboard, and wax, and the soda can alcohol stove.
************************
E5Ranger375 discussed another version of an alcohol heater/stove consisting of a coffee can, de-tubed toilet paper roll and alcohol. He also showed the group how to break down and use an MRE, and how to get rid of the "fluff" and re-pack it to make it 1/3 it's size and keep the nutritional content.
*************************
Steve shared with everyone his experiences in "prepping on a budget," utilizing warehouse stores and similar budget stores to get some of his supplies, including, Harbor Freight, Big Lots, Dollar Tree, and even the biggest money saver - garage sales! For a grand total of about $20, he showed us a LARGE survival knife, 2 pry bars, headlamp, carabiners, LED flashlight, plastic ammo case and LEATHERMAN multi-tool! Don't forget to think outside the box!
*************************
DHolder gave a great lesson on canning, dehydrating, and vacuum-packing using the Foodsaver, as well as recipes and variation of your food supplies.
*************************
JSX1043 discussed the difference in breaking down one's plan into different parts and having multiple and redundant strategies. He discussed the likely event of "Bugging-In," and some basic principles for readying for 7-30 days.
Some topics discussed were:
1. Weather - the most likely event to cause you to bug in.
a. Hot
b. Cold
c. Use of Microclimates, shelters/insulation (ie heat rises, cold sinks)
d. Ways of losing/Gaining heat:
2. Power Outagesb. Cold
c. Use of Microclimates, shelters/insulation (ie heat rises, cold sinks)
d. Ways of losing/Gaining heat:
A. Conduction
B. Convection
C. Radiation
D. Evaporation
E. Respiration
e. Alternative heat sources: make sure you ventilate if burning any kind of fuel indoors.B. Convection
C. Radiation
D. Evaporation
E. Respiration
A. Fireplaces
B. Wood stoves
C. Space Heaters
B. Wood stoves
C. Space Heaters
a. Grid systems will be offline.
b. Support systems may work:
3. Water Advisoriesb. Support systems may work:
1. Landline phones - if you still have a phone line, you should have at least 1 direct connect phone for when the power goes out.
2. Plumbing/Toilet - you have 1 flush if the water stops flowing.
c. Battery powered devices/backups:2. Plumbing/Toilet - you have 1 flush if the water stops flowing.
1. Radios/Communications
2. Flashlights/Emergency Lighting
3. Sump Pumps
d. Alternative Power Supplies:2. Flashlights/Emergency Lighting
3. Sump Pumps
1. Generators
2. Battery Systems
3. Solar
4. Wind Turbine
5. Water Wheel
2. Battery Systems
3. Solar
4. Wind Turbine
5. Water Wheel
1. Boil Water Orders
2. Water shut-off - shut your own water off ASAP after a contamination notice. The water in your house will be OK, but as soon as you turn the faucet on, you risk contamination.
3. Water Disinfection
-Water heater, Toilet tank, aquariums, line drain, Pools, hut tubs, rain collection, fountains, streams, lakes, ponds, ice/snow
4. Civil Disorder2. Water shut-off - shut your own water off ASAP after a contamination notice. The water in your house will be OK, but as soon as you turn the faucet on, you risk contamination.
3. Water Disinfection
A. Pre-filtering - remove the large particles
B. Iodine 2% and 10% - important to let sit for 30 minutes.
C. Chlorine Bleach -
D. Boiling - get to a rolling boil, and take off heat.
E. Pasteurization - over 140 degrees, but not boiling
F. Solar/UV
G. Distillation
H. Advanced Filtering Systems
4. Emergency Water SourcesB. Iodine 2% and 10% - important to let sit for 30 minutes.
C. Chlorine Bleach -
D. Boiling - get to a rolling boil, and take off heat.
E. Pasteurization - over 140 degrees, but not boiling
F. Solar/UV
G. Distillation
H. Advanced Filtering Systems
-Water heater, Toilet tank, aquariums, line drain, Pools, hut tubs, rain collection, fountains, streams, lakes, ponds, ice/snow
a. Localized disaster/incident
b. Police/National Guard lock down
c. Societal breakdown, riots, medical quarantine, nuke/biological/chemical leak/attack.
d. Development of basic home safety plans including, fire, emergency medical, tornado, and evacuation. - Write it down, practice, and revise.
e. Planning for a "hurricane:"
RESOURCES:b. Police/National Guard lock down
c. Societal breakdown, riots, medical quarantine, nuke/biological/chemical leak/attack.
d. Development of basic home safety plans including, fire, emergency medical, tornado, and evacuation. - Write it down, practice, and revise.
e. Planning for a "hurricane:"
1. Boarding windows
2. Moving/securing outside assets
3. Preps storage/utilization
4. Utility shutdown (self) - very important that you can shut off your own utilities in an emergency.
5. Sanitation
6. Fire Protection
f. Preparation of mind, body, heart and soul for possibility of defense:2. Moving/securing outside assets
3. Preps storage/utilization
4. Utility shutdown (self) - very important that you can shut off your own utilities in an emergency.
5. Sanitation
6. Fire Protection
1. Legality - when order is restored, can you justify your actions.
2. Morality -
3. Defensibility -
4. Mobility - bugging out may not be an option, but should still be planned for.
2. Morality -
3. Defensibility -
4. Mobility - bugging out may not be an option, but should still be planned for.
Wendy DeWitt's blog:
Everything Under The Sun
If you go to the Everthing Under The Sun website and email Wendy Dewitt she will email you a PDF version of the workbook she uses when she gives classes. It has a lot of info including recipes, how to build a rocket stove, and many many many food storage options.
Food Storage Seminar
Part 1 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 1 of 9. "Top 10 Reasons"
Part 2 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 2 of 9. "The System"
Part 3 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 3 of 9. "Worst Case Scenario"
Part 4 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 4 of 9. "Equivalency Page"
Part 5 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 5 of 9. "Where to store it all"
Part 6 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 6 of 9. "Pressure Canning Meat"
Part 7 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 7 of 9. "Solar Oven Cooking"
Part 8 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 7 of 9. "Solar Oven Cooking"
Part 9 - YouTube - Wendy Dewitt -- Food Storage Seminar, Part 9 of 9. "Questions and Answers"
Here is the info for the company that has the food grade 55 gal barrels:
B & B Box & Drum Inc
1527 Miller St
Indianapolis, IN 46221
(317) 639-5185
New & Used Boxes - Wholesale & Retail. We also sell 5 gallon buckets, 5 gallon plastic buckets, Poly Drums, Steel Drums & Fiber Drums. Come in and see if we have what you need!
Example of making a soda can stove: Can Stove
Example of making a can beacon/candle: Fire "Beacon"
FUTURE TOPICS:
1. Radio Communications
2. Home Defense/Fortification
3. Legal Options
4. More Food Preparation
5. Emergency Medical
ITEMS LEFT AT MY HOUSE:
Blue cooler w/ 6 pack of Pabst blue ribbon <- claimed by cosmicjetfighterpilot
1 bottle of Jagermeister
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