I can go along with the third option of settling political differences thru elections. The problem lately all to often it becomes more and more difficult for a number of people to honor the results of an election. I try to be objective as i can about the way I see things but I gotta say the way, mostly Democrats going all the way to the top of the party are reacting to Trump being elected has taken us down a dangerous path.There's another option. It's called elections. If impeached the outcome will be political. The Democrats will vote for, the Republicans will vote against..presumably. Probably best to let America decide. If you think he's guilty. Vote your conscience. If you think he's innocent. Same. But the political view of Democrats, they don't want America to decide it because that leaves the potential that he could remain as president for an additional two years.
The FISA warrants that were issued based on a fraudulent dossier? Those warrants shouldn't have been worth the paper they were written on. Hopefully that's what Barr will be able to investigate.As long as they do not bring their politics into their tasked job, then it's not an issue. Keep in mind, that the those on the Muller team were brought together after the FISA warrants, so I'm curious in what ways people thinks their politics would have played a role in how they conducted their investigations. Is working too hard illustrative of this, or are we inferring that those on the Mueller team took criminal actions?
The FISA warrants that were issued based on a fraudulent dossier? Those warrants shouldn't have been worth the paper they were written on. Hopefully that's what Barr will be able to investigate.
I believe that's where the bad blood originated years ago.Probably some sort of NYC/Tammany spat, now being played out on the national stage financed by tax dollars from hard working Americans.
I forgot that muellers mandate was to find proof of innocence.
Does this also include (unbeknownst to the Judge)i intentually presenting for that approval known unverified inaccuracies as well?The entire dossier wasn't fraudulent. The question is (and neither of us know the answer) if the warrants based on dossier would have still been granted had the untrue portions has been absent. I don't know if you know this or not, but an application for a warrant does not need to be completely accurate to be granted.
The entire dossier wasn't fraudulent. The question is (and neither of us know the answer) if the warrants based on dossier would have still been granted had the untrue portions has been absent. I don't know if you know this or not, but an application for a warrant does not need to be completely accurate to be granted.
No, that's Bill Barr's job
The entire dossier wasn't fraudulent. The question is (and neither of us know the answer) if the warrants based on dossier would have still been granted had the untrue portions has been absent. I don't know if you know this or not, but an application for a warrant does not need to be completely accurate to be granted.
Prosecutorial protocol dictates that if you can’t bring charges then you shouldn’t be commenting on potential wrong doing.
Mueller broke protocol with his political statement by basically saying that they didn’t have the confidence to exonerate the President on the issue of obstruction but because of standing DOJ rules it prohibits indicting a sitting president. Then he goes on to tell Congress there is another option for dealing with potential wrongdoing.
He basically gives the impression to Congress that his Special Counsel believes there may be a case for wrongdoing but thier hands are bound by DOJ rules and they should run with impeachment.
This was an intentional political statement by Mueller. Something that breaks with protocol and it calls into question his integrity all along.
In hindsight he should have been fired IMO.
As long as they do not bring their politics into their tasked job, then it's not an issue. Keep in mind, that the those on the Muller team were brought together after the FISA warrants, so I'm curious in what ways people thinks their politics would have played a role in how they conducted their investigations. Is working too hard illustrative of this, or are we inferring that those on the Mueller team took criminal actions?
As long as they do not bring their politics into their tasked job, then it's not an issue. Keep in mind, that the those on the Muller team were brought together after the FISA warrants, so I'm curious in what ways people thinks their politics would have played a role in how they conducted their investigations. Is working too hard illustrative of this, or are we inferring that those on the Mueller team took criminal actions?
I never said that Mueller has the authority to make an indictment all by himself. The overall point is that Mueller did'nt present an indictment referral for obstruction sighting OLC opinion.Mueller can't indict anyone (not even a ham sandwich) He needs a grand jury for that, and no OLC opinion changes that one whit.
I think Mueller is trying to get right with his only possible future employers by keeping the ambiguity about the investigation alive. I think he screwed up again because long before the next election the truth will out about how Russia! Russia! Russia! really was inculcated
I don't really see an endgame in this for the Democrats. If the time it to overlap the 2020 elections in the hope of getting a few more Democratic senators, what will they do if they fail that and Trump is re-elected or they lose ground in the house
Duly noted and I think we’re on the same page.Oh, I quite agree. The fact that Ken Starr could not indict Clinton did not not stop him from delineating all of Clinton's wrong-doings that he had found solid evidence of. If Mueller had clear evidence, why didn't he say so? Because the ambiguity is what they most want. They can't prove anything but they want to be able to continue to rake the muck - much like Comey would tell Trump privetely he was not under investigation but would not say so publicly because it was important that he be left twisting in the wind
Edit: Perhaps read the second paragraph of my quote again