My Roommate (Rant/Plea)

[360]

Send him for an all expense paid trip to Jack Ryans house for a day or two. (provided Jacks wife agrees)

 

[96firephoenix]

Send him for an all expense paid trip to Jack Ryans house for a day or two. (provided Jacks wife agrees)

If I go that route, I"m going as well. no way am I arranging for anyone to meet Jack Ryan without getting a slice for myself.

 

[Booya]

He probably enjoys spewing BS. Drop him of in a rough part of town with only the clothes on his back if he doesn't feel that he has a right to defend himself.

What to do with a roommate like that? Sad and heartless as it will sound, wait for the day he becomes a victim of some lowlife, scum-sucking rectal orifice. Let him feel the helplessness and realize that the almighty government isn't going to be there to save him, dry his tears, and wipe his widdow bottom for him.

They say a conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. For his sake, I hope he survives the experience.

Blessings,
Bill

^^^ Hit the nail on the head if you ask me, I generally find that a lot of the people that think this way have never been in a real situation where they needed (or even felt they might) to protect themselves, his views may remain for now, but your argument will make more sense also when he has something to protect like a family.

I tend to believe that I can take pretty good care of myself, but I still carry. I carry to protect my family and to protect naive NH natives. Just tell him it's fine if he doesn't believe in 2a, but since it exists, you'll be sure that he doesn't get mugged in your neighborhood on your watch.

 

[Ramen]

Socialists usually have something they are hypocritical about since they don't maintain consistent principle. Just find out what that is and then utterly destroy him with it. You can insert the hypocrisy into every part of his life.

He really only wants big government for other people.

 

[XMil]

If you are absolutely sure he is straight, just walk out of the bathroom naked with a tube of KY in your hand and ask him if he's up for a round of "sword" fighting. You'll never see him again.

 

[dross]

I just realized - I'm that annoying guy to all my socialist friends!

 

[Zimm1001]

My oldest son is a freshman at IU this year. During orientation this past summer he and some friends from HS met another freshman from Maryland. A very inteligent young man. VERY VERY Liberal. He liked to use big words and was trying to convince everyone about how bad conservatism was and how good socialism was, how bad business was, how smart he was, etc. etc. A nice young man. I took everyone out to lunch. To be honest most of what he was saying was going over the other boys heads. Now I am not the smartest man in the world but I did understand the words he was using and the ideas he was spilling out. So I had a friendly debate with him. He was a bit taken back at first that I understood the meaning of the "big" words he was using. He was so sure he was right and I tried and tried to explain to him that his understanding of the subject was totally from books and from the environment he came from. I tried to explain to him how the real world works and his view might change once he gets older with more experience especially if he chose to start or run a company.
He would have none of that and tried to tell me how much he read about this subject and well qualified he was to know more than me. I also explained I read a lot on the subject as well, have two college degrees and 25 years of business experience.
My point in all of this is we can only do what we can do. Keep our minds open. Listen to what others say (so we do not become close minded) and in the best way we can explain our point of view to them hoping they will listen to us. Some people with age will gain wisdom. Some will only become Pelosi, Reid and Obama. There it is.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Don't do a damn thing around the house, take all of his stuff without asking, don't pay the rent, eat all of his food.

Then ask him how much he likes his preferred system of government when not everyone pulls their own weight.

 

[BigMatt]

Sometimes when I run into people like this, the anti's, I just play it dumb and say "Hey man, you wanna go shootin'?" They'll re-explain their whole philosophy and all of their fancy reasoning again and I'll say: "Whatever, you wanna go shootin', it's pretty fun!" They are forced to either give up trying to reason with me because I am not reasoning back, be rude and tell me they don't want to go shooting or be polite and accept my friendly offer to go shooting. If you can get them to go shooting, you win. If you gan get them to be rude and turn down your friendly offer, you win. If they give up arguing with you, you win. The key is to never try to be rational, just shrug your shoulders and say "Whatever. You wanna go shootin'?"

^^^ This.

I believe he is scared of guns. I know a lot of people that were. I have convinced a lot of people to go out the the farm and just crack a few off. They are not afraid of them anymore and understand how fun and useful they can be if you know how to use them.

After the guy's fear of firearms is gone, the arguments stop.

 

[ghunter]

I wasn't as looney left as the Roommate, but I used to be a lefty. I had to figure it out for myself. My turning point was working in a pawn shop, where ID is required to pawn or sell. I can't tell you the number of able bodied people who did business there and used various welfare ID cards. When I realized that I was paying them to not work via my income tax, I started to say, "hmmm."

 

[ATOMonkey]

^^^ Hit the nail on the head if you ask me, I generally find that a lot of the people that think this way have never been in a real situation where they needed (or even felt they might) to protect themselves, his views may remain for now, but your argument will make more sense also when he has something to protect like a family.

I tend to believe that I can take pretty good care of myself, but I still carry. I carry to protect my family and to protect naive NH natives. Just tell him it's fine if he doesn't believe in 2a, but since it exists, you'll be sure that he doesn't get mugged in your neighborhood on your watch.

One of my favorite quotes from Criminal Minds.

Penelope Garcia - I don't believe in guns.

Derek Morgan - Believe me, they're real.

 

[Jack Ryan]

If I go that route, I"m going as well. no way am I arranging for anyone to meet Jack Ryan without getting a slice for myself.

No problem. I'm here all week. Even in deer season I'll be back for lunch.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Also, get him to do some of your class work while you watch TV or play video games. If he does a bad job on it, get all over his ass for it and tell him you expect better!!

He'll be a card carrying libertarian in no time.

 

[Zimm1001]

^^^ This.

I believe he is scared of guns. I know a lot of people that were. I have convinced a lot of people to go out the the farm and just crack a few off. They are not afraid of them anymore and understand how fun and useful they can be if you know how to use them.

After the guy's fear of firearms is gone, the arguments stop.

That reminds me of an interview with Richard Dean Anderson. Macgyver, Stargate Atlantis. If you know anything about him you know he is very anti gun. In the show Stargate Atlantis he uses automatic weapons all the time. I saw an interview with him where they asked him about how he was against guns but used them on tv. He said he was against guns but it sure was a lot of fun learning how to fire and fire those automatic weapons.
Moral of the story. Teach as many people how to shoot as you can. They will find out how much fun it really is.

 

[nawainwright]

For what its worth...there are a lot of people in NH that are socially liberal but financially conservative and this often extends to govt control. The state's motto is "Live free or die". Direct him to this website Free State Project - Liberty in Our Lifetime Should be fun.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Have you tried to talk to him about it? Sometimes people are surprised by the results of a good talk over a couple of beers/sodas.

If that doesn't work out, you might try having a good talk with him while standing over his bleeding face, and see if that helps his philosophy.

 

[dross]

If that doesn't work out, you might try having a good talk with him while standing over his bleeding face, and see if that helps his philosophy.

Argumentum ad baculum, the most effective of all the logical fallacies.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

I just realized - I'm that annoying guy to all my socialist friends!

Not exactly. You appear to be able to make a cogent argument for your point of view (not sure how beer might affect this ability).

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Argumentum ad baculum, the most effective of all the logical fallacies.

Is that "Argumentum ad baculum" or "argumentum ad bactineum"?

 

[dross]

Not exactly. You appear to be able to make a cogent argument for your point of view (not sure how beer might affect this ability).

Beer, and especially bourbon, are like total amazing smart liquid. Like spinach to Popeye, bourbon sometimes makes me so smart that I'm the only one who can understand me.