Nazi Flag Display on Emerson Avenue (Indy)

[T.Lex]

This is a situation where context is important, right?

"This is a Nazi trophy my [forebear] took from a group of dead Nazis while liberating a concentration camp." Or some variant thereof.

But when strung together with symbols of rebellion and revolution - without an actual US flag* - says something entirely different.

Kinda glad to hear the guy's an asshat in real life. Sometimes, the cover of the book does a pretty good job of describing what's inside.

*The Gadsden Flag was never officially adopted, other than a brief time by a group of Marines during the Revolution. Rather, it has always been an informal thing. It does have historical significance, but ought not be confused with the actual US flag. IMHO.

 

[gregkl]

He has too many grills.

 

[Hkindiana]

Does knowing why the white stripe is on the flag make me a collector, or a "racist Nazi"?

 

[T.Lex]

Does knowing why the white stripe is on the flag make me a collector, or a "racist Nazi"?

Like so many other things in life, it isn't the knowledge that's the problem. What you do with it is important.

 

[frenchiectfd2203]

Like so many other things in life, it isn't the knowledge that's the problem. What you do with it is important.

+1
Well said.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Who cares?

 

[Cameramonkey]

Does knowing why the white stripe is on the flag make me a collector, or a "racist Nazi"?

Paging @Sylvain.... Paging Sylvain. I know he knows a bit about the various flag variations due to his close proximity to the motherland.

 

[femurphy77]

Never saw a NAZI flag with the white stripe around it but I'm no expert. For a flag that's over 70 years old it looks pretty good.

Never could figure the southern flag being displayed up north, but that's another topic.

My first thought too. Guy's an ass wipe, let's see how long it lasts now that it's made the news. Of course now you'll see a bunch of skinheads showing up to provide security for him/it.

 

[miguel]

What about all the dickless wonders wearing Che t-shirts in Bloomington? Where's the story on them?

 

[T.Lex]

What about all the dickless wonders wearing Che t-shirts in Bloomington? Where's the story on them?

Same as always. Trying to get chicks. Or dudes. Or whatever.

 

[gregr]

Oh, look... The media throws a hissy fit over an individual practicing their first amendment rights again.

Guess the days of ignoring the crazy people are officially over, must have been a slow news day.


P.S. I'll never understand how the swastika is any more offensive than the hammer and sickle. I guess if you kill tens of millions it's horrible, but if you clear the hundred million mark it's somehow better.

Once upon a time in America, we had freedom of speech and expression. It was understood that everyone had the innate right to openly state what was on their minds, and to generally express that however they saw fit. Not so in America today. Unless you express culturally prescribed thoughts and views, you`re shouted down, and even attacked with force. Make no mistake, the Swastika represents evil on a monumental scale, and probably exposes the heart and mind of the person displaying it, but where there once was freedom, there is no more. And contrary to what some claim, no, it`s hardly freedom of speech if there`s a price to pay for it, any price.

Interestingly, it depends too on exactly what kind of display is being discussed. Soft porn on television is somehow alright. When I`ve complained about that, I`m told to "turn the channel if you don`t like it". Nevermind how it impacts the culture, and especially the kids. But when someone bristles and is offended by a cross in a town square, somehow simply turning their head isn`t good enough. That must be dealt with. America is a funny place these days, it`s a place where very often, evil is called good, and good is called evil.

Back to the point of the thread, yes, it says a lot about the condition of the heart and soul of a person who feels it`s appropriate to display a Swastika flag, but it`s sad that freedom of expression is dead in America.

 

[T.Lex]

Once upon a time in America, we had freedom of speech and expression. It was understood that everyone had the innate right to openly state what was on their minds, and to generally express that however they saw fit.

This was never America.

Well, you're leaving out the part where people got their ass kicked for being an asshat.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Once upon a time in America, we had freedom of speech and expression. It was understood that everyone had the innate right to openly state what was on their minds, and to generally express that however they saw fit. Not so in America today. Unless you express culturally prescribed thoughts and views, you`re shouted down, and even attacked with force. Make no mistake, the Swastika represents evil on a monumental scale, and probably exposes the heart and mind of the person displaying it, but where there once was freedom, there is no more. And contrary to what some claim, no, it`s hardly freedom of speech if there`s a price to pay for it, any price.

Interestingly, it depends too on exactly what kind of display is being discussed. Soft porn on television is somehow alright. When I`ve complained about that, I`m told to "turn the channel if you don`t like it". Nevermind how it impacts the culture, and especially the kids. But when someone bristles and is offended by a cross in a town square, somehow simply turning their head isn`t good enough. That must be dealt with. America is a funny place these days, it`s a place where very often, evil is called good, and good is called evil.

Back to the point of the thread, yes, it says a lot about the condition of the heart and soul of a person who feels it`s appropriate to display a Swastika flag, but it`s sad that freedom of expression is dead in America.

I disagree. There have always been consequences for your speech. The scope has just changed.

30 years ago when this happened, The neighbors saw it and reacted. Maybe the entire town read about it in the newspaper. Those various folks shunned or supported him based on their views, and local consequences were had. Wether it shunning, butt kickings, or even houses burned.

Today the same thing happens, but due to the information age, the scope can reach the entire world. Now instead of 50- 1,0000 people hating him, millions hate him.

Excepting hate speech legislation that is. That is the only real difference I see.

 

[indiucky]

OK, so you collect Nazi flags/memorabilia and you arent a racist. Ummm... OK. (I guess)
You collect nazi memorabilia but arent a racist? OK, you like history. (but I'm rather skeptical) Together? I have to call shenanigans on THAT one. The parallels are just too close to ignore.

I just sold $1600 worth of Nazi daggers (the best Heer Dagger and most complete dagger, including the hangers I have ever had...Period...) and Hitler youth knives to a local Doctor who is no way shape or form a racist....He collects WW 2 stuff....German and American stuff only....They are out there...


One of my customers had a German battle Flag displayed in his room and had the police called out to his house...The LEO told him to get rid of it or keep his shades drawn closed....He refused and they have never bothered him again about it....

 

[BiscuitNaBasket]

The guy in that house has had a confederate battle flag flying infront of his house since 2006 at least. I am not surprised, I mean it's obvious he likes flags.
Sincerely,
A former Eastside resident

 

[HubertGummer]

If you don't like the flag, don't look at it. He's an ***hat if he flys the flag to support racism, but he's an ***hat with a right to his opinion. People also have a right to hold the opinion that he is an ***hat.

 

[bwframe]

Is it worse to be branded as a racist or Nazi? Or maybe today's cool word of the left, fascist?

 

[T.Lex]

Is it worse to be branded as a racist or Nazi? Or maybe today's cool word of the left, fascist?

Among INGO members? That may be a tough call....

 

[Route 45]

Once upon a time in America, we had freedom of speech and expression. It was understood that everyone had the innate right to openly state what was on their minds, and to generally express that however they saw fit. Not so in America today.

When was this magical time? I guess it all depends on the group that you refer to as "we."

And by the way, freedom of speech means freedom from government interference in speech. Not freedom from your fellow countrymen disagreeing with your worldview. I don't see anywhere in the story where the government made him take down his "collector's item."

 

[HubertGummer]

Is it worse to be branded as a racist or Nazi? Or maybe today's cool word of the left, fascist?

In this particular case, what's the difference? The people who object to him flying either flag object for the same reason.