New S&W "Self Defense" pistols?

[shooter521]

Hey all!

While browsing a distributor's website looking for something unrelated, I noticed a couple items from S&W that I didn't recognize.

S&W Self Defense
Polymer frame. 4" barrel. Stainless steel slide w/ Melonite finish. Steel fixed rear sight/front tritium night sight. Industry standard equipment rail. Ergonomic design.

Part numbers appear to be 220400 for the .40 (14-round) and 220900 for the 9mm (16-round). Also shows part numbers for models with 10-round mags for restricted states. MSRP is $520.

These are listed and described separately from the Sigma and M&P lines, so I ass-u-me it's a completely new design. S&W's website doesn't list anything. Anyone got any intel?

 

[CSK22]

Could not find anything else, very interesting.

I wonder why they would make another polymer frame semi auto?

Will these match their "bodyguard" line?


Why create more competition to the Sigma and M&P lines unless they are discontinuing the Sigmas?

Buds has them out of stock:

S&W SD 40SW 4 POLY 14 for Sale at Buds Gun Shop

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/manufacturers_id/31/sort/3a/page/9

with no pictures and no info <<<<<<<

 

[garagegunmaker]

Could you give us the website so we could have a look?


How about a picture?

 

[shooter521]

Could you give us the website so we could have a look?

No; it's a distributor website that requires a business login.

I was thinking maybe these were simply a "distributor exclusive" version of the Sigma, since dealer cost and MSRP are close to the SW9/40VE. But the "industry standard rail" as described would require a new frame mold (not cheap), and it would probably still share the general SW9/40 designation. There would probably also be a pic posted on the distributor's site, even if it was just a generic Sigma photo.

The plot thickens...

 

[ISHOOTHST'S]

Intresting find...i would like to see these myself.

 

[HICKMAN]

man, how can you tease us with no pics

 

[printcraft]

Smith is coming out with a polymer J-frame style too. ala Ruger LCR.
Cylinder release is along the top instead of the left side.

 

[shooter521]

Smith is coming out with a polymer J-frame style too. ala Ruger LCR.
Cylinder release is along the top instead of the left side.

Yeah, that's the new "Bodyguard" .38 revolver with the integrated laser; companion piece to the .380 discussed here:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/handguns/87611-new_s_and_w_380_pocket_pistol.html

 

[matrxx]

Yeah, that's the new "Bodyguard" .38 revolver with the integrated laser; companion piece to the .380 discussed here:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/handguns/87611-new_s_and_w_380_pocket_pistol.html

I can't wait to lay my hand on it.Thanks for the post.

 

[Nsw550]

I'm not interested in the bodyguard series. Now if S&W came out with a subcompact single stack 9mm in their M&P line I would be all over it!

 

[byggpoppa]

I'm not interested in the bodyguard series. Now if S&W came out with a subcompact single stack 9mm in their M&P line I would be all over it!

Bingo!

 

[alluwant]

i would like to take a look if you could post that website that would be awesome thanks

 

[22lr]

New S&W pistol!!!!!!

S&W SD40, SKU: 220400
Action: Striker Fired Action
Barrel Length: 4” (10.2 cm)
Front Sight: Tritium Night Sight
Rear Sight: Steel Fixed 2-Dot
Overall Length: 7.2” (18.3 cm)
Width: 1.29” (3.3 cm)
Weight: 22.7 oz. (643.0 g)
Grip: Textured Polymer
Frame Material: Polymer
Slide Material: Stainless Steel
Barrel Material: Stainless Steel
Finish: Black Melonite®

MSRP is $530 so shelf price will be in the mid to low $400s. Looks like another generation of the Sigma, so should be full of win!

Worst case scenario is that we have another budget automatic to choose from. Best case is that its a real improvement over the Sigma and will be priced cheaper than the M&P (cant see how it wouldn't be). The 16+1 mag capacity makes me wonder if it will be taking Sigma mags...........

Im wanting to get my hands on one and try it out, might have to buy one and test it out.


Edit: And I fail for not searching. I didn't see anything on the first page so assumed no one had mentioned it yet.

 

[rimfire_crazed]

I'm not interested in the bodyguard series. Now if S&W came out with a subcompact single stack 9mm in their M&P line I would be all over it!

- Something to replace the 908 - I'd make it my EDC in a heartbeat.

 

[Colt556]

That looks really interesting. I wish more pistols would be chambered in .38 Super and 10mm though.

 

[HICKMAN]

looks like an updated Sigma

 

[SSGSAD]

I love it when S&W, or ANY mfg., comes out with something new, and different...

 

[shooter521]

looks like an updated Sigma

Or a dumbed-down M&P...

Either way, might be a happy medium for lots of folks.

Looks like they've done some things right with this new offering (front night sight, standard accessory rail, better grip texture); hopefully they've dropped in the M&P trigger pack instead of continuing to burden their customers with the godawful Sigma trigger.

 

[XDinmyXJ]

So its kinda like a GlocXD?

 

[rimfire_crazed]

I'm guessing we'll see 6 months of overlap with the sigma series and then see those blown out the door at bargain prices (which is great beacuse I need a 9mm) and then this will be the entry polymer pistol. Frame dimensions with the exception of the rail look exactly like the current SW-VE series. Weight is ~2oz. less than the current Sigma's.

Hopefully we'll get some reviews here shortly. Strange this wasn't announced at SHOT though.