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  • Double T

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    I understand INGO will be a 2A-centric place, but there are other important issues out there.

    The other issues are a moot point. The country is in shambles. "Civil unrest" is seeming more and more likely as the numerous divisions of our citizens split everyone further and further. Having the ability to defend oneself is more pressing than anything regarding fiscal policy and responsibility.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    The other issues are a moot point. The country is in shambles. "Civil unrest" is seeming more and more likely as the numerous divisions of our citizens split everyone further and further. Having the ability to defend oneself is more pressing than anything regarding fiscal policy and responsibility.

    This isn't the first time the country has been threat with civil unrest. And to be honest, it doesn't rank very high at all considering other instances. In other words, the sky isn't falling, so we can give attention to other issues besides the second amendment.
     

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    Smirconish interviewed someone about Garland, and it turns out he knows him personally. Bottom line he said the guy tends to favor precedence, establishment, and law enforcement, but would certainly move the court left as an incrementalist. On gun control, he said a lot of what's been said says more than reality bears. He would probably tend towards the anti-gun side. The interviewee doubted Garland would vote to overturn Heller, however. But if other decisions incrementally moved precedence in that direction, he could probably vote then to overturn it.
     

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    Confiscation is only possible when you give them back.

    No, confiscation would be insanely easy if you had the right plan. Grandfather all current owners, and make them declare their firearms. Upon death, their firearms go to the state for destruction. If a person is found with an unregistered firearm, that's a charge. If you know of someone with an unregistered arm, and report them, you get $100 for each firearm recovered.
    See, easy. People running govt aren't idiots. If those in charge wanted to be tyrants, they easily could. There simply aren't enough liberty minded people anymore to put up a good fight.
     

    KJQ6945

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    No, confiscation would be insanely easy if you had the right plan. Grandfather all current owners, and make them declare their firearms. Upon death, their firearms go to the state for destruction. If a person is found with an unregistered firearm, that's a charge. If you know of someone with an unregistered arm, and report them, you get $100 for each firearm recovered.
    See, easy. People running govt aren't idiots. If those in charge wanted to be tyrants, they easily could. There simply aren't enough liberty minded people anymore to put up a good fight.
    Never underestimate your elders. We have more money, more ammo, and know that we won't live forever.
     

    KJQ6945

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    What happens when we die? They know we'll eventually die.
    Everybody dies, The prepared get to pick which hill it will be on.

    If it ever comes to confiscation, the constitution is dead, and so are the rules.
     

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    No, confiscation would be insanely easy if you had the right plan. Grandfather all current owners, and make them declare their firearms. Upon death, their firearms go to the state for destruction. If a person is found with an unregistered firearm, that's a charge. If you know of someone with an unregistered arm, and report them, you get $100 for each firearm recovered.
    See, easy. People running govt aren't idiots. If those in charge wanted to be tyrants, they easily could. There simply aren't enough liberty minded people anymore to put up a good fight.

    How much are you willing to bet?
     

    poptab

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    Everybody thinks they'll be the exception. Govt for the past 100 years has proven them wrong.

    I don't know what you mean but I see you didnt make a wager.

    It's like in chess when the threat of action is often more useful than actually taking the action.

    I don't think desire is stopping them from confiscation. Well maybe their desire to be perceived as powerful. Australia comes to mind. I don't think it's benevolence which stays their hand.
     

    cbhausen

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    This isn't the first time the country has been threat with civil unrest. And to be honest, it doesn't rank very high at all considering other instances. In other words, the sky isn't falling, so we can give attention to other issues besides the second amendment.

    Which issues take precedence here?
     
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    cbhausen

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    No, confiscation would be insanely easy if you had the right plan. Grandfather all current owners, and make them declare their firearms. Upon death, their firearms go to the state for destruction. If a person is found with an unregistered firearm, that's a charge. If you know of someone with an unregistered arm, and report them, you get $100 for each firearm recovered.
    See, easy. People running govt aren't idiots. If those in charge wanted to be tyrants, they easily could. There simply aren't enough liberty minded people anymore to put up a good fight.

    You seen to have this all figured out... Which side are you on?
     
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    I don't know what you mean but I see you didnt make a wager.

    It's like in chess when the threat of action is often more useful than actually taking the action.

    I don't think desire is stopping them from confiscation. Well maybe their desire to be perceived as powerful. Australia comes to mind. I don't think it's benevolence which stays their hand.

    Was that a bet? I have no idea how you see it working, but ok, let's bet on something hypothetical that hasn't been put into motion.
    I don't think govt wants to disarm us, we're very far away from that point, but I do think "they" and that's both parties would be ok with restricting us.
     

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